Midas agression advice.

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octofasciatus

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Midas has recently turned his attention to beating up the male acara, he does go for the 2 GT's also but they are a bit faster. I am due to remove the pair of GT's to seperate tanks anyway and also the large gibby is going. Is there any fish I can add so that the agression will be diverted from the acara, I was thinking of putting in a convict as I hear they are tough and fast. I have loads of hide spots and visual barriers for fish to retreat to. Any advice please.
 
Well, in all honesty you're probably going to have to remove one. Acara's are very passive in comparison to a Midas. The only things you really could try is to rearrange the tank.

You could add a Convict but that also could back fire too... Convicts are also, generally, meaner or more aggressive than the Acaras.

You could try to turn the heat down to around 78 degrees but I doubt it'll do anything. Is the tank large or small?
 
orbit;2796736; said:
Well, in all honesty you're probably going to have to remove one. Acara's are very passive in comparison to a Midas. The only things you really could try is to rearrange the tank.

You could add a Convict but that also could back fire too... Convicts are also, generally, meaner or more aggressive than the Acaras.

You could try to turn the heat down to around 78 degrees but I doubt it'll do anything. Is the tank large or small?


completely agree. having owned a couple of blue acaras i know that, although they will pick up on any opportunity to bully other fish, when it comes down to it they couldnt fight their way out a wet paper bag.
the arguements between the midas and acara will soon become one sided and before long you wont have an acara.
i cant see another aggressive fish helping, it will more than likely take it out on the acara until the acara dies and then the midas and con will go at it.
 
I was taking the female GT out to her own tank anyway, I may put the acara in with her and see what happens. I reckon that the Midas will turn it's attention to the male GT who is smaller as I have never seen any altercation between the slightly larger JD and the Midas. Anybody recommend some speedy fish that the Midas can waste time chasing? They are all in a 180gallon by the way.
 
Anybody had any luck keeping Midas with Giant Danios? I hear they are speedy.
 
I put my Midas in a tank by himself and I noticed over about a month that he was getting grouchy quick. I have full intentions of trying to make him a community fish as well so I went to my LPS and got a Pike.

I have to say, I did NOT like Pikes before I got one but my guy is super cool! Extremely attentive to me when I come into the room hes in! He isn't aggressive at all but dodges the Midas's aggression with ease! Eats like a pig and is out pretty much all of the time!

Sorry to anyone that has read my recommendation of the Pike to many times now... LOL
 
octofasciatus;2796905; said:
I was taking the female GT out to her own tank anyway, I may put the acara in with her and see what happens. I reckon that the Midas will turn it's attention to the male GT who is smaller as I have never seen any altercation between the slightly larger JD and the Midas. Anybody recommend some speedy fish that the Midas can waste time chasing? They are all in a 180gallon by the way.

I have silver dollars that have really mellowed things out in my tank. They are fast, get good size are good eaters and in schools of 6 or more keep the tank interesting. I don't have a Midas anymore but my green terror is just as (if not more) aggressive. I put in 6 silver dollars and the tank really settled down. Even my convict Julio doesn't get beat on as bad anymore.
 
orbit;2797114; said:
I have full intentions of trying to make him a community fish as well so I went to my LPS and got a Pike.

The owners intentions dont mean squat, the fish are the ultimate deciders.


My experience with Midas/Devils is that the males cannot be kept with any other cichlids. I have a 10" one now that is OK with some tinfoil barbs. I had one do OK with some giant danios. I have had 5 adult males and none of them would deal with any tank mates minus what I listed above.

Three of the five would attack ANYTHING that came near or in the tank, me, python hose, algae scraper etc. NONE would tolerate plecos or cichlids. I feel I am very ucky to have one now that will allow 3 TF barbs and a 6" raphel. The last 2 males I had were in a 180g. I have read that in tanks 300+ they are actually kinda peaceful.

I have a female devil in my 180 ans she get along just fine, she is peaceful but wont back down either.
 
TrikkyMakk;2797135; said:
I have silver dollars that have really mellowed things out in my tank. They are fast, get good size are good eaters and in schools of 6 or more keep the tank interesting. I don't have a Midas anymore but my green terror is just as (if not more) aggressive. I put in 6 silver dollars and the tank really settled down. Even my convict Julio doesn't get beat on as bad anymore.

Silver dollars, didn't think about that. I am going to have a look for a few coins today. I think they'll be a good addition and hopefully it will work out.
Many thanks for all your replies.
 
I agree with heavy hitter. There will be some differences between individual fish aggression. For example why do some fish attack the glass, when others do not? I once had a large jag that was excited to see people, but when the cat got on a nearby table the jag would go ape or chimp.

You may have to put the devil in tank by itself or return him. Why do you think you see so many large red devils in a tank by themseves at the lfs? Not the best choice for a community tank. Unless it's a really really big one.
 
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