I wish I knew how long ago you got him. When I first got into fish I was killing them left and right and later discovered that I wasn't acclimating them properly and would die off a week or two later. When I began dripping them in, the deaths stopped.
Midas Suddenly Dead?
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Ill have to drip the next one then. Thanks everybody!
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you also have to remember fish just die, it seems like you didnt do anything wrong, so maybe it was just the little guys turn to go to the big tank in the sky :/ anyways why not get another midas and try again? good luck and sorry for your loss bro
I guess so. Ill definitely try again.
Thanks!
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the midas you got 2 days ago? Try asking the lfs for a replacement. they might, or might not, but won't hurt to ask.
either way, this time get one whose eyes look like everybody else's.
either way, this time get one whose eyes look like everybody else's.
I would not be discuraged, get another one. Did you mention the size of the tank and % of water changed?
You should test your water out of the tap so you have a base line. Nitrates 30ppm with daly water changes seems like you have nitrates in your tap water. Are you using test strips or a liquid test kit? A liquid test kit will be more accurate or take some water to the LFS and have them test it for you. Use Seachem Prime or Safe during water changes. Seachem Prugen is another option, however I've never had to use it so I would reasearch it on your own. You could also add some more bio media to your filtration system. Midas are pretty hardy fish and are not as sensative to nitrates as some other species however the lower the better as prolonged exposure to high nitrates is not healthy for any fish. BTW 30ppm is not too high but it's starting to become border line.
The paragraph below is from the Seachem web site:
"Q: How does Prime make a difference in reducing Nitrates?
A: The detoxification of nitrite and nitrate by Prime (when used at elevated levels) is not well understood from a mechanistic standpoint. The most likely explanation is that the nitrite and nitrate is removed in a manner similar to the way ammonia is removed; i.e. it is bound and held in a inert state until such time that bacteria in the biological filter are able to take a hold of it, break it apart and use it. Two other possible scenarios are reduction to nitrogen (N2) gas or conversion into a benign organic nitrogen compound.
I wish we had some more "concrete" explanation, but the end result is the same, it does actually detoxify nitrite and nitrate. This was unexpected chemically and thus initially we were not even aware of this, however we received numerous reports from customers stating that when they overdosed with Prime they were able to reduce or eliminate the high death rates they experienced when their nitrite and nitrate levels were high. We have received enough reports to date to ensure that this is no fluke and is in fact a verifiable function of the product."
You should test your water out of the tap so you have a base line. Nitrates 30ppm with daly water changes seems like you have nitrates in your tap water. Are you using test strips or a liquid test kit? A liquid test kit will be more accurate or take some water to the LFS and have them test it for you. Use Seachem Prime or Safe during water changes. Seachem Prugen is another option, however I've never had to use it so I would reasearch it on your own. You could also add some more bio media to your filtration system. Midas are pretty hardy fish and are not as sensative to nitrates as some other species however the lower the better as prolonged exposure to high nitrates is not healthy for any fish. BTW 30ppm is not too high but it's starting to become border line.
The paragraph below is from the Seachem web site:
"Q: How does Prime make a difference in reducing Nitrates?
A: The detoxification of nitrite and nitrate by Prime (when used at elevated levels) is not well understood from a mechanistic standpoint. The most likely explanation is that the nitrite and nitrate is removed in a manner similar to the way ammonia is removed; i.e. it is bound and held in a inert state until such time that bacteria in the biological filter are able to take a hold of it, break it apart and use it. Two other possible scenarios are reduction to nitrogen (N2) gas or conversion into a benign organic nitrogen compound.
I wish we had some more "concrete" explanation, but the end result is the same, it does actually detoxify nitrite and nitrate. This was unexpected chemically and thus initially we were not even aware of this, however we received numerous reports from customers stating that when they overdosed with Prime they were able to reduce or eliminate the high death rates they experienced when their nitrite and nitrate levels were high. We have received enough reports to date to ensure that this is no fluke and is in fact a verifiable function of the product."
Here's a picture of my dead Midas. Thanks for your support.
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Morbid. Do you always ask for pictures of dead animals? I am pretty sure we all believe the OP without having to see a picture.
OP: Definitely give it another shot. Like many of the posters have suggested, genetics can cause early death due to unforeseen, pre-existing complications. You were just the poor keeper who picked it up.
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Morbid. Do you always ask for pictures of dead animals? I am pretty sure we all believe the OP without having to see
a picture.
Exactly what I was thinking!
OP: Definitely give it another shot. Like many of the posters have suggested, genetics can cause early death due to unforeseen, pre-existing complications. You were just the poor keeper who picked it up.
I definitely will
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