Mirror Carp

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MN_Rebel;4065269; said:
Mostly likely invasive as these days the people quit stocking the common carps in any waters or at least most of people quit stocking them. I never heard anyone who stock common carps in United States on purpose (in present days) except the koi carps.

I would wager a guess that the fish MasterB posted were 'stocked'
by negligent anglers who tipped their bait buckets in the water after
they were done fishing?The fish MasterB posted appear to be of the
strain known as 'Israeli Carp',a fast and large growing,deep bodied
strain of mirror carp often sold as catfish bait in many states.The
'Israeli's' have also been intentionally stocked in some waters
through out some southern states for aquatic weed and insect
control.
 
MN_Rebel;4065286; said:
I always want catch a leather carp but seems they are more common in UK than in North America. From what I heard that they are not hardy as their scaled and mirror cousins.

Not sure of the hardiness of the leather carp,I really don't see
why they wouldn't be as hardy as any common or mirror?Most
carp dubbed leathers actually tend to have some scaling on
them,usually around the fin bases.Just very sparsely scaled
mirrors.A truly scaleless carp would be rare in Europe as
well.
 
Nice I used to have a pure gold fantail mirror koi
 
cyprinid;4065599; said:
I would wager a guess that the fish MasterB posted were 'stocked'
by negligent anglers who tipped their bait buckets in the water after
they were done fishing?The fish MasterB posted appear to be of the
strain known as 'Israeli Carp',a fast and large growing,deep bodied
strain of mirror carp often sold as catfish bait in many states.The
'Israeli's' have also been intentionally stocked in some waters
through out some southern states for aquatic weed and insect
control.
What is difference between Israeli and mirror carp?
 
MN_Rebel;4066444; said:
What is difference between Israeli and mirror carp?

There is no difference in speices.The Israeli carp are just a strain/race
of Cyprinus carpio that were originally developed by breeders/fish farmers
for the table,as most carp seen in Europe were.They were designed to be
fast growing (less time to harvest),Deep/High backed (more meat),Mirrors
(for easier cleaning),etc,etc.In North America,mirrors naturally occur with
in the gene pool,but without mans intervention and selective breeding only
a small percentage of each spawn will be mirrors.Some of the first carp
stocked in the US were European bred mirrors but over time,our carp
have reverted back to the more 'wild' like state of longer,leaner,slower
growing,fully scaled fish that don't tend get near as big as their selective
bred cousins of the Old World.However,there are rare waters in the US
where the entire stock of carp are mirrors,with no help from man.
 
So does USA still has some deep-bodied carps around here or just most wild carps?
 
MN_Rebel;4066736; said:
So does USA still has some deep-bodied carps around here or just most wild carps?

The body shapes and genes of carp in the US can vary considerably from
water to water but typically,most fish are of a more slender shape.You do
see females with huge sagging,spawn laden guts.But rarely will you find
a carp with the shape and frame that the typical Euro fish present.With
more and more of the Israeli carp becoming established in waters around
the US and managing to spawn with existing carp populations,the 'new
blood' being introduced,could in time mix things up a bit.
 
Check this beauty out, it seems to be a cross between a Mirror and Koi.

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and a few others

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I caught Goldie in a lake by my house

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Dam thats big goldfish!
 
Here are 2 carp we caught in our seine survey a few years ago- regular and mirror. Carp were introduced into Maine many years ago. They seem to be contained in one river for now.

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