Mokes and Ansorgiis...

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hmm I was thinking the Mokes got bigger than 14" but I have not found a lot of info on them. I got the smallest Ansorgii and it is around 10" so I know it will get larger.
 
Until about 2 years ago the only examples of P.ansorgii were preserved in museum collections and were about 11 inches.This species was so rare it was at one time thought to be extinct-Anne
 
as said, ansorgii, 30+ inches. i heard from 2nd hand info that there are specimens as large as 36 inches.

mokelembembe - actually one of the smallest species...no bigger than ~12". in fact 10" is usually largest you'll see.
 
Infblue;1589092; said:
as said, ansorgii, 30+ inches. i heard from 2nd hand info that there are specimens as large as 36 inches.

mokelembembe - actually one of the smallest species...no bigger than ~12". in fact 10" is usually largest you'll see.
forgot to add, these are wild sizes. in aquariums, they'll likely not reach these sizes if you grow one out.
 
thefishguy7;1588478; said:
I guess that I have to read up some more recent articles then, thanks for the info.
I have never even seen an ansorgii before-you have the experience, and you're right.
Maybe now I'll buy an ansorgii because they have a large potential size.:naughty:

Can you please direct me to a link with more recent information? I'm having trouble finding a reliable-looking source.

Toyin gets in smaller ones for a couple bills, which is pretty good.

Join aquaticpredators.com to stay up to date on polypterids. :)

HTH
 
Cohazard;1589185; said:
Toyin gets in smaller ones for a couple bills, which is pretty good.

Join aquaticpredators.com to stay up to date on polypterids. :)

HTH

Thanks, I'm joining...I wish I got one from Toyin while I got my teugelsi and congicus...
 
Hello,

still the same problem with the size of Polypterids!

The reasons are easy to find: The Congo bassin is a "white spot" in biological view - it seems weird but there are many people who think that the "rain forest" could only be found in South America ...
On the other side Polypterids aren't well explored - due to the political situation in the African states in that region excursions won't be supported. It's dangerous to stay in this region for everyone - it's an almost forgotten tragedy ...
Any of the descriptions of the Polypterids are old, others are full of mistakes. The most made mistakes are the statements about the size!

In the case of Polypterus ansorgii the world only knew these two specimens conservated in museums since nearly hundred years. Okay.
But one thing was unambiguous: Ansorgii is a member of the Bichir-group (other members are P.bichir, P.lapradei) - no one of them is a dwarf at all! It's a pity to declare such a final size unreflected to this cicumstances ...

Another mistake from the newer days - Polypterus teugelsi were described after seeing photos of a dead (hm, i would say "superdead") specimen. Teugelsi definitely don't have black pectoral fins! Some Polypterids get them after some time be dead and dry ...
The end size was declared about 40cm - mine is about 50cm! I've seen a pic of a specimen with a full-lenght of 64cm ...

Back to the other sizes ... after having seen this pictures from Ansorgii that were described here this specimen might be an end size of 70cm (more or less).
Another size that is often declared in a wrong way: Polypterus ornatipinnis! In Austria ther is a keeper who has a specimen with a full lenght of more than 60cm!

I think it's time for correction in ichtyological and aquaristic literature!

Greetings

Uwe
 
uwe;1589573; said:
Hello,

still the same problem with the size of Polypterids!

The reasons are easy to find: The Congo bassin is a "white spot" in biological view - it seems weird but there are many people who think that the "rain forest" could only be found in South America ...
On the other side Polypterids aren't well explored - due to the political situation in the African states in that region excursions won't be supported. It's dangerous to stay in this region for everyone - it's an almost forgotten tragedy ...
Any of the descriptions of the Polypterids are old, others are full of mistakes. The most made mistakes are the statements about the size!

In the case of Polypterus ansorgii the world only knew these two specimens conservated in museums since nearly hundred years. Okay.
But one thing was unambiguous: Ansorgii is a member of the Bichir-group (other members are P.bichir, P.lapradei) - no one of them is a dwarf at all! It's a pity to declare such a final size unreflected to this cicumstances ...

Another mistake from the newer days - Polypterus teugelsi were described after seeing photos of a dead (hm, i would say "superdead") specimen. Teugelsi definitely don't have black pectoral fins! Some Polypterids get them after some time be dead and dry ...
The end size was declared about 40cm - mine is about 50cm! I've seen a pic of a specimen with a full-lenght of 64cm ...

Back to the other sizes ... after having seen this pictures from Ansorgii that were described here this specimen might be an end size of 70cm (more or less).
Another size that is often declared in a wrong way: Polypterus ornatipinnis! In Austria ther is a keeper who has a specimen with a full lenght of more than 60cm!

I think it's time for correction in ichtyological and aquaristic literature!

Greetings

Uwe

I agree uwe, fishbase is a bit outdated on some polypterus sepcies, a shame since that site is usually accurate.
 
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