Eh, new member got excited and thought he could do something great for the site/hobby without fully thinking things through. A noble idea but was not went about the right way.
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Great conversation folks. Thank you.
It seems like we all have our heads in the same place, we're just not sure how to move forward. Honestly, that's a breath of fresh air. The type and intensity of disagreements in this thread is different people simply arguing their stance, without actually fighting.
This is a glimpse of the old MFK, and I love it.
Still, having everyone with their heads in the same place is a good thing in my opinion. Should we be able to iron out something we want to do, I'll do my best to make it happen.
The main things I'm hearing from you all are formatting, search functions and cleaning up needless duplicates.
I have the ability to add mandatory formatting to any section or to all of the forum or to individual subforums. Mandatory formatting won't help stuff from the past, but it may help moving forward.
The staff and I agree that duplicate threads should be combined to a previous relevant thread, such as a new October update being merged into the previous April update. Threads that are updated ALWAYS get better attention than new threads, after all.
I may be able to do something to make the search both more conspicuous and more intuitive. I'll have to play with the settings.
It seems like we all have our heads in the same place, we're just not sure how to move forward. Honestly, that's a breath of fresh air. The type and intensity of disagreements in this thread is different people simply arguing their stance, without actually fighting.
This is a glimpse of the old MFK, and I love it.
Still, having everyone with their heads in the same place is a good thing in my opinion. Should we be able to iron out something we want to do, I'll do my best to make it happen.
The main things I'm hearing from you all are formatting, search functions and cleaning up needless duplicates.
I have the ability to add mandatory formatting to any section or to all of the forum or to individual subforums. Mandatory formatting won't help stuff from the past, but it may help moving forward.
The staff and I agree that duplicate threads should be combined to a previous relevant thread, such as a new October update being merged into the previous April update. Threads that are updated ALWAYS get better attention than new threads, after all.
I may be able to do something to make the search both more conspicuous and more intuitive. I'll have to play with the settings.
Anyone on this site is welcome to add more knowledge. I did this as a 15 year old as you can see here. Any quality information is welcome on this website
Did someone say that it's not? Just curious, as your comment directly followed mine. No need to get defensive, I detest old lazy people equally as young lazy people.
I have certainly never discouraged anyone from adding knowledge to this site. But there is knowledge via google, and there is knowledge from experience.Not exactly, Viktor, but close. I am saying that yes, one cannot change society as a whole, but I am also saying I don't see anything that's seriously broken, that someone who actually gives a hoot (including your example, ZUGS) can't find exactly what they are looking for via the SEARCH function, if they truly want to put in some effort. Those that are too lazy to bother, are not EVER going to be on my priority list, here, or anywhere else in life. Is that clearer?
We have a data base that is currently 15 yrs old, and from my single example that I showed above - it works fairly well. At least I think so. If someone wants to improve on that, no problem, good luck. Maybe we could start with a 3 character minimum?
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I understand, and agree to an extent. Most of those topics won't fall into my searches as I tend to narrow my search string down to the bare bones, such as using "carpintis" as I posted previously. Most newbies refer to them as "texas". lol That was just a fun poke amigo, I could not resist.
And the topics such as you described that do fall into my search parameters, are easily & quickly ignored as I skim my search titles. At least this is typically my experience.That would be a huge help for many I think.
Well thats a refreshing thought after the last couple of threads like this....lol
No, you heard him. What he needs to do is make a post thanking everyone, THEN go steal everyone's stuff, lol.
I think Stan summed it up pretty well, which is that there are a lot of newbies who are going to listen to whatever they want to. I touched on it a while back with the video idea - why should someone believe our video saying a RTC needs a 1000+ gallon system, when some random kid's video says they're fine in a 300? At the end of the day we're going to have new members on here who come to ask questions, only to get advice from members and just disregard it or straight up do the opposite of it.
I think the easy way to limit this would be some kind of database where they can reference compatibility and tank sizes. Maybe a "FAQ" section as well. They don't have to reference it, but it will give members helping them a starting point. From there if they have more questions, they can be answered in another thread. Either way, the old thread could be removed. I don't see why deleting the threads would be an issue, if they have no contribution.
I think the easy way to limit this would be some kind of database where they can reference compatibility and tank sizes. Maybe a "FAQ" section as well. They don't have to reference it, but it will give members helping them a starting point. From there if they have more questions, they can be answered in another thread. Either way, the old thread could be removed. I don't see why deleting the threads would be an issue, if they have no contribution.
Nothing to do with it, I am currently studying for my final exams so I tend to skim and my comments may be a little out of contextDid someone say that it's not? Just curious, as your comment directly followed mine. No need to get defensive, I detest old lazy people equally as young lazy people.
It was politely suggested to him when he made "his" first jab at a species profile (since deleted) but as far as we know he never followed up with it:
MFK Book: Red-Tailed Catfish
Let's Make the MFK Book! The previous link is a suggestion to create an MFK Book, this is the first species I'd like to do first. I'm using the sticky thread So you want to keep a RTC (Red Tailed Catfish)? and online research until I have completed a guide. Here's a link to the [deleted] for...
www.monsterfishkeepers.com
I’m not sure what the intention is here as I do not see a book being published, maybe videos are in MFKs future?...
just speaking for the noobies here, sometimes when they ask questions they want up-to-date information from people who are or have already had experience with said specie. They want to be part of the community and making a first post is sometimes difficult so they ask a rather easy question...maybe not out of laziness or anything just for the fact of making a presence on the site.
I know when I was a noob I would read read and read some more and then post a question relevant to the fish I was reading about to see if current people had the same views as the info I had just read to see if there was varying or new information related to them.
the reasons you are here on this forums are 1) you want to learn
2) you want to teach
3) you want to be part of a community
4) you want to lurk and read to keep up with
Information
5) you want to troll
i don’t see any problems with the above 4 reasons....so if a noob wants to post questions on a species asking the same question over and over again then so be it. I will either respond with information for them or ignore it (those are my options) I will not try to belittle them or call them lazy for trying to be included.
maybe the site can have a research section that has all the good information And reliable information and posts that have good information in them in a separate section of the forum? (redundant actually, as the stickies are quite informative)
Personally I don’t see anything wrong with the information on the site and anything I want to find is an easy search away....Sometimes I don’t want to search, sometimes I want to make a post so I can interact with people in the hobby
just speaking for the noobies here, sometimes when they ask questions they want up-to-date information from people who are or have already had experience with said specie. They want to be part of the community and making a first post is sometimes difficult so they ask a rather easy question...maybe not out of laziness or anything just for the fact of making a presence on the site.
I know when I was a noob I would read read and read some more and then post a question relevant to the fish I was reading about to see if current people had the same views as the info I had just read to see if there was varying or new information related to them.
the reasons you are here on this forums are 1) you want to learn
2) you want to teach
3) you want to be part of a community
4) you want to lurk and read to keep up with
Information
5) you want to troll
i don’t see any problems with the above 4 reasons....so if a noob wants to post questions on a species asking the same question over and over again then so be it. I will either respond with information for them or ignore it (those are my options) I will not try to belittle them or call them lazy for trying to be included.
maybe the site can have a research section that has all the good information And reliable information and posts that have good information in them in a separate section of the forum? (redundant actually, as the stickies are quite informative)
Personally I don’t see anything wrong with the information on the site and anything I want to find is an easy search away....Sometimes I don’t want to search, sometimes I want to make a post so I can interact with people in the hobby
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