Well guys, I havnt seen him since i hooked him. And I've gone pretty much every day. Thrown mulberry out several times, but nothing. I usually don't quit, but this is an exception. I give up. Just too hard, too much food in the lake...sigh. Oh well, I have a new goal. The park with tons of grass carp suposivly has a 60 ponder in there, seen last time th electroshocked it. I'm heading down there tonight, just before dark. Let's see if I can't snag a few, wish me luck. I'll have pics!