Most Colourful SA/CA?

[duanes]

I don't think its a out of line to state that Herichthys carpintus and Herichthys cyanoguttatus are different species.
If they are, then Herichthys deppii, Herichthys minkleyi and H tamasopoensus should all be considered Texas cichlids, though only H cyanoguttatus comes from Texas and through isolation became cyanoguttatus.
Under this definition of a species, all Vieja are 1.
And Parachromis dovii and P grammodes are the same, as would be managuense, all just color variations of which ever evolved first. In fact then, all Parachromis should be called woodringi, the fossil cichlid. Guess there really isn't a dovii at all.

 

[Aquanero]

Ciclilasoma woodringi was discovered in Cuba or Hati, a direct ancester of Nandopsis haitiensis so a Dovii is a Blue Black Nasty........oh what a tangeled web we weve!

 

[Azedenkae]

They are not that different at all other than location and different dot formation, infact look up origins of the Texas cichlid and its pretty obvious its just an evoked carpintis that found its way into texas that's part of the reason those two fish will breed like convicts, I call the carpintis green Texas because most people wouldn't know what fish I'm talking about if I didnt but there not a regular hybrid, its an interspecific hybrid, means a cross of two animals in the same genus, although it is still a hybrid there very closely related and look very similar so the offspring don't exactly have that hybrid look, I should have said its a hybrid though your right I've just never looked at hybrids of extremely similar fish as real hybrids if that makes any sense lol

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They are different species, it's been determined so over and over by different studies, hence why they are given two different names (aka H. cyanoguttatum and H. carpintis). You can't say they are the same species, because then as with what duanes said, everything in the genus would be the same species... which they're not.

Obviously they are closely related, but fact is they are different enough that they are considered to be separate, and you can easily differ them by morphology.

Don't see why you can't accept something that's been confirmed over and over by different studies, and seem so obvious that it's true.

 

[zoohouse]

Rainbow cichlidView attachment multispinosa.bmp
This thread was suppose to be about pics.

So I move that no one can post without a pic. Anyone second?

 

[duanes]

I'll see if I can get a pick of woodringi, but wait!

Sorry Couldn't help myself.

 

[Decker504]

How's this for colorful?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrBqBTILVc4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[Aquanero]

I'll see if I can get a pick of woodringi, but wait!

Sorry Couldn't help myself.

What a mug! No wonder it's extinct............

 

[cichlidfish]

I don't think its a out of line to state that Herichthys carpintus and Herichthys cyanoguttatus are different species.
If they are, then Herichthys deppii, Herichthys minkleyi and H tamasopoensus should all be considered Texas cichlids, though only H cyanoguttatus comes from Texas and through isolation became cyanoguttatus.
Under this definition of a species, all Vieja are 1.
And Parachromis dovii and P grammodes are the same, as would be managuense, all just color variations of which ever evolved first. In fact then, all Parachromis should be called woodringi, the fossil cichlid. Guess there really isn't a dovii at all.

I dissagree that h. caprintis and h. cyano are the same or similar sp. just as all herichthys. They are very diferent:

http://www.cichlidae.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15894

Grammodes is still a exC. according to fishbase.org. Parachromis and herichthys are not valid synonyms. Grammodes has not been assigned to a new genus yet.

http://www.fishbase.org/Nomenclature/SynonymsList.php?ID=26776&SynCode=60774&GenusName=Cichlasoma&SpeciesName=grammodes

 

[duanes]

This is my point, that they are different.
Someone above stated that carpintus and cyanoguttatus are simply location variants.
I guess my attempt at pointing this out by making another equally ridiculous statement was lost in translation.
But I think Aquanero and I are in a similar place, think he has a secret tank with woodringi too.

 

[katie_89]

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i love the Heckeli, had 4 of those, (stole this picture from google)