Motoro Stingray Food types need Idea!

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About the market stuff like shrimp, tilapia, scallops, squid ... You prefer fresh stuff, frozen stuff, pre-cooked stuff? and what about the risk of bacteria... do you need to boil them before feeding? Finally for conservation do you freeze and take it directly from the freezer for feeding?
About smelt and silverside... good for nutrition or fat like the goldfish? also prefer them fresh, freeze .... Its winter time so I can get some from ice-fisher...
Also again the question about earthworms and disease? what do you think of it?
At the price those little baby cost me I want a be sure taking no risk...! Tks for your tip.
 
What do you think about this stuff...

http://www.petsandponds.com/en/new-items/p17617129.html

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Hikari Massivore Delite 2.2LB (1kg)

Scientific, Daily Diet For All MONSTER Fish That Completely Eliminates The Need For Live Foods

Massivore Delite™ is a complete, nutritionally balanced formulation, developed for BIG carnivorous fish whose main diet of live food tends to cause nutritional deficiencies. Using Massivore Delite™ instead of live foods reduces the chance of infection from parasites or bacteria found in most live foods while eliminating the pollutant effect many live foods can create.

Each Pellet Contains The Caloric Equivalent Of 1.8 Average Goldfish

Each Package Contains The Caloric Equivalent Of More Than 2,500 Goldfish

Promotes healthy form

Helps reduce fish waste

High in stabilized vitamin C to reduce stress and build immunity to disease

A well balanced combination of nutritious ingredients designed to stimulate appetite

Bio-Technology allows us to use the highest grade of caroteniods available today to help your fish develop their natural, brilliant colors and maintain them

Monster Pellet Absorbs Water Quickly & Softens For Ready Acceptance

Sinking Quickly & Will Not Cloud The Water

Free Of Parasites & Bacteria Common With Live Foods

Oxygen Inhibiting Bag Assures Freshness

Guaranteed Analysis:

Crude Protein 47% Min.

Crude Fat 5% Min.

Crude Fiber 3% Max.

Moisture 10% Max.

Ash 17% Max.

Phosphorus 1% Min.



Ingredients: fish meal, krill meal, starch, wheat flour, dried seaweed meal, brewer's dried yeast, dried A. niger fermentation extract, astaxanthin, canthaxanthin, vitamins and minerals



Additives:

Vitamin A - 48,000 IU/kg

Vitamin C - 180 mg/kg

Vitamin D3 - 9,600 IU/kg

Vitamin E - 1,100 mg/kg

Copper - 16 mg/kg



Feeding Suggestions: Feed once daily only the amount your fish will completely consume within three (2) to four (4) minutes. Care should be taken to avoid over-feeding. Carnivorous fish many resist a new type of food when changing their diet from live foods to a stick type food, continued use will ensure acceptance.


Quantity :

$CAD 79.99
 
Interesting that copper is added to Massivore.
 
Massivore is all starch. Not a good staple. Better off using Northfin or NLS for pellets.
Whole fish would be ideal. My rays are picky if it's not frozen tilapia or shrimp. I would like to get them on Northfin Carnivore.
 
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I don't have rays but replaced buying earthworms (and other frozen and live foods) with red wiggler worms (AKA composting worms). I've been feeding them to all kinds of fish for years.

Culturing red wigglers is super easy (basically a rubbermaid bin in my garage/fishroom that I throw veggie, fruit and paper waste into) and they're safe, nutritious and easy to feed. I've yet to find a fish that doesn't like them.

They're not quite as large as earthworms but (in warm temps like my fishroom) reproduce rapidly.

Matt
 
I don't have rays but replaced buying earthworms (and other frozen and live foods) with red wiggler worms (AKA composting worms). I've been feeding them to all kinds of fish for years.

Culturing red wigglers is super easy (basically a rubbermaid bin in my garage/fishroom that I throw veggie, fruit and paper waste into) and they're safe, nutritious and easy to feed. I've yet to find a fish that doesn't like them.

They're not quite as large as earthworms but (in warm temps like my fishroom) reproduce rapidly.

Matt
Always wanted to do this! Matt, how much red Wigglers would one need for rays as a dozen earth worms is easily one feeding for a mid size ray
 
Always wanted to do this! Matt, how much red Wigglers would one need for rays as a dozen earth worms is easily one feeding for a mid size ray
I've been feeding red wrigglers to my rays because I just got a WC marble...about 10" and he won't eat anything else yet. I usually give him about a dozen at a time. My smaller female grabs a couple tho. I feed 2 or 3 times a day depending on my schedule. Not sure how many you would want to give bigger rays. I blow thru them pretty fast with just my 2 small rays
 
I use unclejimswormfarm.com and I believe it's $19.95 plus shipping for 1000
 
I'd start with 2-3 pounds to get started. The other constraining factor is surface area and food. To really get production going, get a larger bin (actually nest one bin inside the other and drill small holes in the bottom of the inside bin, so it can drain). It takes about a month for them to settle down and start reproducing...

Lots of good online composting / red wiggler worm tips :)

Matt

Always wanted to do this! Matt, how much red Wigglers would one need for rays as a dozen earth worms is easily one feeding for a mid size ray
 
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