Ok so heres the facts. I had a 4fter with 5 smal-med angels in my room, but was moving rooms. I set up a 2nd hand (tall 2ft) tank i got last weekend for them. I put the smallest in with a new 150 watt heater to test the water (so to speak) for 24 hrs before i added the others. There was some java fern and java moss in the tank with them, and i moved ofer my small internal filter from my 4fter (which had kept the water good for the 3 months i had had them for) This morning there were 3 dead, and the smallest that i added 24hrs before the others is still alive. Why do you think they died?
Multiple Angel Deaths...Your theory...
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He moved over his cycled internal filter from the other tank
Angels don't die that fast due to uncycled tanks. I routinely move my healthy breeding pairs to uncycled 10 gallon tanks with no problems.
Could be an acclimation problem. There's really not much to go on based on the information provided.
Yeah i was leaning towards acclimatation problems too.
heres the details i didn't give before i rushed off to TAFE: They were in aa tank heated at about 27 deg celcius but in with the new heater (set on 28 deg celcius) the temp rose to 30 deg celcius. I first noticed something was wrong when my biggest started gulping and just sort of hovvering in the tank mid section.
The two that survived are still alive in the same tank the others died in.
not much more info i can think of.
I thought they should have been ok, because in my mind it was just like doing a 90% water change (as i added about 10 percent of the water FROM the 4fter to the new tank)
heres the details i didn't give before i rushed off to TAFE: They were in aa tank heated at about 27 deg celcius but in with the new heater (set on 28 deg celcius) the temp rose to 30 deg celcius. I first noticed something was wrong when my biggest started gulping and just sort of hovvering in the tank mid section.
The two that survived are still alive in the same tank the others died in.
not much more info i can think of.
I thought they should have been ok, because in my mind it was just like doing a 90% water change (as i added about 10 percent of the water FROM the 4fter to the new tank)
He moved over his cycled internal filter from the other tank
A tank with a moved filter set up less than one week is not cycled. The moved filter starts off cycling for that tank speeds up the process a lot but it's not cycled until you test and test until you have no ammonia and nitrites with the regular tank load.
dannyboy you should really take advice when you put fish in an uncycled tank
If you have a fully established filter that you put on a new tank it is essentially cycled. All of the bacteria needed to convert amonia to nitrates (i know I skipped a step) are present in the filter. It's basically doing a 100% water change. As long as you dont drastically increase the bioload you should be just fine. I've done it several times.
for example: When I moved my old plywood tank out and brought the new 265 in, I put the fish in a temporary holding pool, removed the old tank, filled the new tank with all new water, hooked up the filter, let it run for about 10 minutes to help get the dechlorinator spread throughout the tank, and threw the fish in. It worked perfectly.
Fry i did take advice....
Yeah rallysman thats what i thought and read a couple of places, that it was just like doing a massive water change. I even moved across just one for 24 hrs just to make sure it did fine so i added the others. The origional one i put in is the smallest and still alive.
Its annoying to loose fish...but im hoping to use it as a learning experience, so thanks