Multiple problems, need advice

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justinf67

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I have a 30 gallon tank that has been setup for about 3 months, which has zebra obliquens, and an emerald catfish. the zebras have been in their and bred quite a few times, but lately, they started to die off. I had 2 females, with no signs of issues, die off within a week of one another. one day they were lethargic, then the next dead. then it happened to my male not very long after. I replaced the male, and hes been in there about 2-3 weeks, and hes showing signs of being lethargic as well. also, I have 2 females that had gotten cloudy growths over the eyes. one has it on both sides, while the other on only one. the fish that have the cloudy eyes are swimming fine, but im not sure whats going on in this tank. I have no ammonia for sure, it was tested with an api test. the other parameters im unsure of. I have done 50 percent water changes 3 out of the last 4 days, with no seeming improvementto any of them... i can add pics if need be. please help here, i dont want to lose any more fish in this tank
 
I would keep up with the water changes for a while until we get this figured out. And use a good quality dechlorinator.

When dealing with new fish sometimes the stress from moving them or shipping can induce disease from the high stress levels.

But when dealing with older fully acclimated fish, 90% of the time the problem is a water quality issue.

I would suggest checking the nitrite and nitrate and ph level of you tank for starters.

I would also put some salt in the water around 1 table spoon full for every 5g of tank water. Any pure salt will due, Table salt, fresh water aquarium salt, water softening salt.

The salt will help with any nitrite poisoning that may be happening as well as help to calm the fish and replace any slime coat that has deminished from the stress.

Once we now the results of the parameters of the water it will be easier to halp with a treatment.
 
hybridtheoryd16;3309142; said:
I would keep up with the water changes for a while until we get this figured out. And use a good quality dechlorinator.

When dealing with new fish sometimes the stress from moving them or shipping can induce disease from the high stress levels.

But when dealing with older fully acclimated fish, 90% of the time the problem is a water quality issue.

I would suggest checking the nitrite and nitrate and ph level of you tank for starters.

I would also put some salt in the water around 1 table spoon full for every 5g of tank water. Any pure salt will due, Table salt, fresh water aquarium salt, water softening salt.

The salt will help with any nitrite poisoning that may be happening as well as help to calm the fish and replace any slime coat that has deminished from the stress.

Once we now the results of the parameters of the water it will be easier to halp with a treatment.

IDK whats going on, they were extremely happy for quite a bit, like i said, they bred many times, then all of a sudden, bam, they started dying off. I do water changes every week of at least 30-40 percent, sometimes its after like 5 days. I also add salt at each water change. I need to get the other tests, but it so weird. also, I have 2 penguin 150s on it, so its providing a good amount of filtration.

Side note, my 55 mbuna tank is going along wonderful with no issues. i may just have to pick up the test units tomorrow. would pics help?
 
Yea some pics would help.

Also the test results as well as what you are feeding and are you using a good dechlorinator?

This is the main reason I do not use salt all the time. Because now you have a situation where salt would have helped treat if it was absent.

But since the salt is there allready, if your water turns out ok then you will have to move to medications to treat them.
 
hybridtheoryd16;3309772; said:
Yea some pics would help.

Also the test results as well as what you are feeding and are you using a good dechlorinator?

This is the main reason I do not use salt all the time. Because now you have a situation where salt would have helped treat if it was absent.

But since the salt is there allready, if your water turns out ok then you will have to move to medications to treat them.

heres a few pics.. on the top of the male, his skin is seeming to rot a little. he seems to be doing a bit better, but he still looks bad. the one with the eye issue is still eating and active. i am using api stress coat as a dechlorinator, and feed these guys regular cichlid flakes


got the nitrate tester today, and its at between 10-20ppm, but looks more like 10. no ammonia either, so im stumped here. my mbuna tank actually has between 40-80 ppm, so i gotta do a water change there, and they all seem happy... this tank has me ??

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Can you get jungle labs products were you are?

If you can I would suggest using there fungus clear or the life guard product.

If you can not get those I would get some antibiotics like maracyn and maracyn2 and take the fish out of the main tank, And place it in a hospital tank or a bucket and treat it with those 2 at the same time.

Just do daily water changes since there will be no bio filter and retreat daily for a few days.

It looks like a bacterial skin infection.
 
i have jungle tabs, and im gonna treat today...should i treat the main tank, or move them to the hospital tank? just worried if i move them to the hospital tank, clear them, and reintroduce, that they will recatch whatever they have...irrational fear on my part?
 
well, the male didnt make it. he seemed to be more mobile last night, but his body was pretty bad looking. he ended up with a whole red strip along the middle of his body. u guys think it was bacterial? the rest of the tank is still on the treatment.
 
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