My falkneris
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I think the collection of the ray is the only 100% solid proof, however I am not sure what everyone is thinking Castexi. I have never seen a Castexi tale look like those. All people are saying is "not Falkneri".
Funny what people are used to... If you posted those P14s you did this morning a few months ago I bet most on the board (including me) would question whether they are p14s as they dont look like any other P14s I have seen on here.
When people start posting WC Black diamonds there will probably be an uproar of people questioning whether they are really BDs as they probably wont look exactly like the ones we are all used to (whatever that it).
Captive breeding has been going on big time since the ban and there are some incredible selective breeding going on. The "perfect" ray has probably been invented. Lets face it the borders are open and there will be a variety of rays that will come from various places they may or may not look like the ones in your tank. Long live captive bred rays as you are probably going to get better quality in the long run.
Funny what people are used to... If you posted those P14s you did this morning a few months ago I bet most on the board (including me) would question whether they are p14s as they dont look like any other P14s I have seen on here.
When people start posting WC Black diamonds there will probably be an uproar of people questioning whether they are really BDs as they probably wont look exactly like the ones we are all used to (whatever that it).
Captive breeding has been going on big time since the ban and there are some incredible selective breeding going on. The "perfect" ray has probably been invented. Lets face it the borders are open and there will be a variety of rays that will come from various places they may or may not look like the ones in your tank. Long live captive bred rays as you are probably going to get better quality in the long run.
I agree when you say that the location of the collection is the important thing, ad the only way to prove the real ray identity .... This things work with plecos as well... Like the real BD, they came from a small place from Tocanthins river... Or the P14, that came only from the Itaituba city area.... Identify the rays is realy hard, hard as plecos, the only real prove is the collected area... For me is easy to know, because the cities that those fish might come are so restrict, Like Para state, is easy to know where the rays came from, If they came from Maraba, the fish are from Tocanthins river, Altamira, the fish cam from Xingu, Santarém the Tapajos river(no matter if the fish came from Itaituba city, the airport are at Santarém) and The Belem city, that collect fish around Belem, like rio do Para.... The problem is after came to the south (most export pass to Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro before go to Europe, North America or Asia) ad go to the importers, the rays mixted with Perus, Colombia and Venezuelas rays and they missed the real identity... ABout the Captive breeded rays, we don't have any here and I can't believe that someone will do it here in Brasil... The Ibama has so many restriction that I don't believe that someone is crazy anough to do that.... To have a example, right now we don't have any legal fish import in Brasil, The Ibama changed all the Law a out on a lot of restriction to all importers... To hae a idea, we canot have any kind of jumbo fish like trairao (Hoplias macophtalmus) Peacock bass (Cichla sp) or any large catfish (except the Brachyplatystoma tigrinum, that by the way I know a lot of exporters and I haven't see any, or heard anyone that have or even looked one) And by law all those fish are illegal even to export.... So I guess everybody have a Idea how things work in Brasil ...
Falkneri ... spotted tail, golden ring on disc rim.. just a different variant..
Good info straight from Brazil, Thanks Michel Janio Li
Good info straight from Brazil, Thanks Michel Janio Li
