My first goonch, need an ID plz

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If the fish is new, then it might take a while before it understands what's food.

Normally if anything comes in the current they will try to eat it, I got mine on pellets by adding a power head to the bottom of the tank, so that any food thrown gets carried around in the current and in the direction of the fish
 
Ah interesting fasting periods. I see I see. Yeah will see how it develops. Speaking of fasting, I have 3 alligator gars in my outdoor pond and I don't think they've eaten for months as I've left a population of feeders in there and it's been untouched. Guess the subzero temperature has placed them in hibernation mode. Remarkable.
 

At first glance, I'm inclined to think that these look LLG, Bagarius yarrelli. However, at this size and with how new they are, it's hard to say for sure.

It's important to note, that while we call one type HLG and the other LLG, they can be found in the same rivers and the general thinking is that HLG is more migratory than is LLG.

Headbanger: you can't ID bagarius by color and pattern bc they will change depending light, substrate, size etc. 1 of mine started off looking like yours and then changed later and my other was almost completely patternless and now they look almost identical.

Greenrinks: just give it time. At least it's eating.

This is great advice, and very true. Trying to ID brand new goonches has been the bane of my existence on this site, and I wrote the bloody guide lol. Given time to settle into their new homes and become comfortable, their ID always becomes much more clear.

I heard from my supplier that the locality of my fish is on the most outer edge of china.. Does that mean it's an sp. indochino has pecs of a b. Bagarius then?

All goonch can have the streamers, I've seen rutilus with streamers as well developed as anything in this thread.

They definitely do not. If you look at Liam's indochina it's pectorals are nowhere close to the same length as an HLG

I disagree. While the giants definitely seem to have the most well developed streamers, all the species seem to have them.

What is an HLG???

HighLand Giant. It's a nickname we've given to the species of goonch found in the cold waters of the Himalayan foothills. It's easier thant typing Bagarius bagarius over and over.

Still hasn't seen him eat in the past week regardless of temperature drop. If yours has lived in warmer waters without issue, I don't see the reason to dedicate a whole cold water tank if it can fair in moderately warmer waters.

Again, agreed. HLG can be found in warm water at least seasonally. However, it is important to note that they're always found in highly oxygenated water.

If the fish is new, then it might take a while before it understands what's food.

Normally if anything comes in the current they will try to eat it, I got mine on pellets by adding a power head to the bottom of the tank, so that any food thrown gets carried around in the current and in the direction of the fish

All good advice, and advice which has worked for me in the past.
 
I disagree. While the giants definitely seem to have the most well developed streamers, all the species seem to have them.

I'm not specifically talking about the streamers. I mean the overall size of the actual fins. I agree that pretty much all the Goonch species have extremely long streamers except the suchus from what I've noticed but on the HLG they are extremely large even at a small size. From my current 2, the original I got at 4" but the pectorals were so large, when viewing from above they were just as wide as the fish was long. I've noticed this with all the HLG's I've owned ranging from 6-12". But yes. Definitely not an accurate way to ID. Just saying this is how I've been able to differentiate to specifically point out an HLG.
 
I know for sure, that these new guys are from west bengal, so your take that these are LLG, is absolutely correct, C Chicxulub .
 
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I'm not specifically talking about the streamers. I mean the overall size of the actual fins. I agree that pretty much all the Goonch species have extremely long streamers except the suchus from what I've noticed but on the HLG they are extremely large even at a small size. From my current 2, the original I got at 4" but the pectorals were so large, when viewing from above they were just as wide as the fish was long. I've noticed this with all the HLG's I've owned ranging from 6-12". But yes. Definitely not an accurate way to ID. Just saying this is how I've been able to differentiate to specifically point out an HLG.

My apologies my friend, I quite clearly misunderstood you. Now that I understand what you're saying, I agree completely. In fact, I've said this myself quite a few times.
 
No worries bro. I understood what you were saying completely. Hopefully soon enough a professional will work more on studying these guys
 
No worries bro. I understood what you were saying completely. Hopefully soon enough a professional will work more on studying these guys

Dr. Hoek Hee Ng, who originally described Bagarius rutilus about ten years ago, is currently working to revise the genus. He's been at it for about two years or so.
 
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