My first SALTWATER tank!!!!!

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Purigen advertises that it absorbs organics. I've noticed since I upgraded my skimmer my purigen doesn't turn pink as fast. I have about 10oz in my sump in 4 different bags and I used to bleach one a month to not shock the system but in the past few months I haven't had to. Great stuff
 
Anemones contain Toxins (plural) some of them are being used in cancer research - it's quite common public knowledge and easily found on the net. Heres what an exerp from wikipedia -




"The mouth is in the middle of the oral disc surrounded by tentacles armed with many cnidocytes, which are cells that function as a defense and as a means to capture prey. Cnidocytes contain nematocyst, capsule-like organelles capable of everting, giving phylum Cnidaria its name. The cnidae that sting are called nematocysts. Each nematocyst contains a small vesicle filled with toxins (actinoporins), an inner filament, and an external sensory hair. When the hair is touched it mechanically triggers the cell explosion, a harpoon-like structure which attaches to organisms that trigger it, and injects a dose of poison in the flesh of the aggressor or prey. This gives the anemone its characteristic sticky feeling. The sea anemone eats small fish and shrimp.

The poison is a mix of toxins, including neurotoxins, which paralyzes the prey and allows it to be moved to the mouth for digestion inside the gastrovascular cavity. Actinoporins have been reported as highly toxic to fish and crustaceans, which are the natural prey of sea anemones. In addition to their role in predation, it has been suggested that actinoporins could act, when released in water, as repellents against potential predators[citation needed]. Anemonefish (clownfish), small banded fish in various colors, are not affected by their host anemone's sting and shelter themselves from predators within its tentacles."
 
Why doesn't the skimmer do it? Are the particles too small? Or is not meant to catch everything? I mean, I know its not a filter in the traditional sense, but I was under the understanding that its purpose was to remove harmful things from the tank. Is that solely like detritius-ey stuff or will it take more than that?

Yes - Skimmers are solely for catching dissolved protiens and organic matter that is easily seperated from h20 because it hasn't bonded. Think of both h20 and the carbon atoms like flypaper, things stick and bond with both rather easily. Activated carbon has the ablility to remove the bonded material from H20 and hold it for a short period of time - 4 weeks. The major problem with Activated carbon in a marine enviorment is that it also traps nessassary trace elements like iodine, iron, zinc, etc... It can completely strip all trace if over used causing Head and lateral line errosion in fish and halt a shell fishes ability to molt. Use activated carbon no more than 48 hours a week solely as a detoxifier and change carbon every 4 weeks. Corals also contain toxins that they use to fight off other corals - most esp softies. So use carbon weekly to detoxify when mixing hard and soft corals aswell. This will help prevent build up of toxins in your tank water and keep the water healthy.
 
Yes - Skimmers are solely for catching dissolved protiens and organic matter that is easily seperated from h20 because it hasn't bonded. Think of both h20 and the carbon atoms like flypaper, things stick and bond with both rather easily. Activated carbon has the ablility to remove the bonded material from H20 and hold it for a short period of time - 4 weeks. The major problem with Activated carbon in a marine enviorment is that it also traps nessassary trace elements like iodine, iron, zinc, etc... It can completely strip all trace if over used causing Head and lateral line errosion in fish and halt a shell fishes ability to molt. Use activated carbon no more than 48 hours a week solely as a detoxifier and change carbon every 4 weeks. Corals also contain toxins that they use to fight off other corals - most esp softies. So use carbon weekly to detoxify when mixing hard and soft corals aswell. This will help prevent build up of toxins in your tank water and keep the water healthy.

Thank you so much!

That helped a lot - I didn't know to only run carbon for 48 hours. So that's where the Puirgen comes in? Since it only takes nitrate and phosphate, it can be run all the time? What if you have plants that need those elements? Like cheato in your sump or mangroves pokin out the top? Will the Purigen take out too much of the nitrate and phosphate or will enough be left behind for the plants?
 
Not necessarily....We're still talking about the anemone, just more in-depth than the OP. :)



Oh, you mean that *points up* ....hahaha.... It started out being related. 6 degrees of separation...Its related. All stuff he needs to know... *wanders off mumbling*
 
This thread has gone a little OT :)


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I would say so. 1 month later anenome is fine and dandy, still recovering from its run through the power filter. I took a break from mfk, but now I am back, not sure if people really care though :(... Tester day I got a tribal blenny 2 green chromis, and a pulsing Xenia coral. Also got some mushrooms.
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I agree the anemone will inevitably die. But I've had anemones die in several tanks and never ha any issues with tanks crashing. I actually had a green bubble go for a short Into a pearl bubble and get killed and nothing happened

Yeah, still alive.....


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