My fish eat ur fish... and this...anyone else ever try it?

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I'd love to see a pic, but I understand if you don't want to jinx it - I know what you mean! My baby one is like that - but the bigger one is just the laziest fish ever - he won't move, even for food - The ONLY thing he really enjoys are earthworms. He will grudgingly eat other things, but will show displeasure at having to move. lol.
Tell me about his setup and future plans. Yours is the size of my bigger one and the same age. (I think they probably came in together.)
 
These are exactly the pellets I have been using for 5 years at least and I have been referring to many on here again and again.

The ingredient list is less than good but one has to understand the purpose of this food - this is to throw into a NATURAL, large body of water to have fish come out and eat and show themselves. This is meant to be very far from a staple food or from accounting for, I'd guess, more than 1/4 of what the fishes eat.

Almost all my fish always liked them but the vast majority of the make-up appears to be of the terrestrial plant origin, like wheat and its derivatives, beans, corn, etc. One of them has hydrolyzed feather as the first ingredient - the Trophy fish one, the indeed stinky and more expensive one :)

RD is a great expert on these issues and he wrote several articles here on MFK. If one is patient and reads through this, sometimes a bit too heated, discussion, they will pick up a lot of valuable info, including on the anti-nutritional matter in beans, etc. which is no good for fish: http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38692

I am too busy/lazy. Could you take a nice clear photo of the ingredient lists and post it, please? I have them in hardcopy but for the discussion sake, it'd be nice to have them handy here. Beware, they are very poorly printed on most labels and often a portion of text is cut off on the right but maybe you will luck out and find nicely printed ones.

Yes, country and agricultural stores carry these, like Tractor Supply Co, Countrymax (in Western NY), and all their competition. Some garden outlets, pond shops, etc. carry them and others.
 
I figured the ingredients wernt exellent for the price . Kinda saddening lol...ill have to keep searching for another alternative like trout feed as i know its better nutrition. Ill get u a pic of the bag/ingredients

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Well i looked at the bag for ingredients and there not on there :( ...just says its fortified with vitamins. Makes me worry now its just a bad filler food.

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It is not on the bag. It is on a tear-off piece of paper hanging off of the bag's bottom.

IDK about trout feed as a large portion of diet for a tropical predator. Trout are temperate-to-cold water fish who feed on fat-rich prey and accumulate much fat themselves. This is one of the reasons that goldfish are not a good diet for tropical predators - fat.

Don't worry, please. As I said, for years I fed ~300 lbs of diverse monster fish with these pellets accounting for about 1/5 of their total intake, some more, some less. What's needed is an educated opinion of someone like RD. But overall, the picture is not surprising to you and me - he will say this is a crappy food but we need to understand the details as they are what matters - we wanna see fish-derived and aquatic-animal-derived ingredients high on the list. These only have a fish meal (#3-#4 on the list) and a blood meal, that I'd consider good ingredients. All the rest are only partially digested and they do pollute water more in that way. But again, it is the balance between the cost and the benefit. We are all constantly trying to balance them and keep learning, and not only in fish-keeping.

That is why I chose the middle of the road pellets, like Zieger's, and rely heavily on wholesome, fleshy and "crunchy" foods for my fishes that I catch myself or find for cheap.

Surely there is a way and a place for all pellets and we just need to keep learning how to use what's available to us better and better.
 
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