My Fish Piss Me OFF!!

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heres what u gotta do. you want a jag right?..well I have a question. why the fu** would u buy a 2-4 inch jag to put in an established red devil/Dempsey tank were the fish are 2-4 inches bigger?. cmon bro this aint amateur hour. ok so since u already wasted like 60 bucks on fish that got body bagged: go out, get a jag that's atleast the size of the Dempsey and I mean that, do a 50 percent water change, rearrange EVERY territory I mean you have to make it like a brand new tank so these fish get confused. then add him. then fill it back up. jags are highly adaptable and highly defensive when they are not alpha in the tank. so that's all I got for you. but goodluck
 
heres what u gotta do. you want a jag right?..well I have a question. why the fu** would u buy a 2-4 inch jag to put in an established red devil/Dempsey tank were the fish are 2-4 inches bigger?. cmon bro this aint amateur hour. ok so since u already wasted like 60 bucks on fish that got body bagged: go out, get a jag that's atleast the size of the Dempsey and I mean that, do a 50 percent water change, rearrange EVERY territory I mean you have to make it like a brand new tank so these fish get confused. then add him. then fill it back up. jags are highly adaptable and highly defensive when they are not alpha in the tank. so that's all I got for you. but goodluck

Bad advice! Introducting fish of comparable or bigger size post threat and will trigger territorial fight immediately. You may be able to get by if you introduce several comparable size fish at the same time and hope they will fight out the new hierarchy. But a safer way is to introduce smaller submissive fish, several at a time, and provide them hiding places so so they can be gradually acclimated to the new order. Small fish don't pose threat to the established hierarchy and are more likely tolerated.
 
Give it a year, then revise your statements. :)

Why? You think a42cm fenustratus, 32cm jag, 30cm Midas and a 30cm Oscar aren't going to cause trouble now if they were going to?

Like I said I'm was waiting for a load of text book idiots to jump on me.my and my friends here all have big tanks over stocked with aggressive fish...no issues.

Can I ask...so any of you saying I'm wrong actually have these fish, or have attempted to keep a community of these for, or ever even owned them...or are you just passing uneducated comment?

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Bad advice! Introducting fish of comparable or bigger size post threat and will trigger territorial fight immediately. You may be able to get by if you introduce several comparable size fish at the same time and hope they will fight out the new hierarchy. But a safer way is to introduce smaller submissive fish, several at a time, and provide them hiding places so so they can be gradually acclimated to the new order. Small fish don't pose threat to the established hierarchy and are more likely tolerated.

Bad advice.....smaller fish= food regardless of hiding places

Smaller fish will get out competed for food and die from not eating.

Adding multiple big fish to the tank with no territory will work

Just from my real world experiences...so

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You may have a chance to introduce new small fish, not small enough to be food, but small enough to pose no threat to the hiarachy and be able to hide in caves for a while. Eventually the small fish will come out to eat and grow into a member of the community.[/QUOTE]

Read what I said above.
 
What size tank are we talking about? One solution I have used in the past is too treat a CA tank like a Mbuna tank. Crowd them to the point no one is singled out. This technique is high risk! Water quality becomes critical and not everyone is up for it. You may be better off just being satisfied with your original fish until they come to blows, which is most likely just a matter of time.

Right now I have a 125 with one lone 6" Le Cieba Freddy in it because he will not tolerate anything else. Kinda sucks but this guy is worth it, to me. He will be a monster in another year.
 
Yup.....I want to know what size tank we're talking about here.

OP: What size tank?

4D3: How are you keeping your Nitrates at 0 with that kind of stocking? Lots of plant filtration to scrub nitrates?
 
You may be able to get by if you introduce several comparable size fish at the same time and hope they will fight out the new hierarchy. .

I also said that above. The OP added one big fish at a time, which was disastrous with certainty . Adding mulitple big fish at the same time may work out, but the outcome is still uncertain. Adding smaller non-threatening fish is the safest bet, provided that it is not small enough to become food. I have done it many times and it worked out. I have decors only small guys can get in.
 
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