My Jardinis

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Bodey73

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IMG_0121.JPG I bought this 4" or so jardini about a month ago for $350 (I feel like I totally overpaid but whatever) they called it a Red Spot you can see on its fins the red dots. However I got another the other day cause it was actually in my own pet store for like $80 and it seems like a definite male. Yes it's early to tell probably I've done a lot of research prior to investing in these fish of course a lot on this forum in fact. However, it's about the same size maybe a half inch bigger. But it looks wider and has longer barbells, a slightly bigger jaw, and a longer anal finIMG_0206.JPG
(Possible male after fight/separation) However, I put them together in a 10 gallon cause I figured **** they're still young and all should be good since they're well fed and what not but I watched em for like 20 minutes and all was chill they were swimming next to and past each other and all was good but I left for like a half hour and came back to see that they were both damaged, not fighting anymore once I entered my room but I was going out for my night off so I decided it'd be best to separate them. The red spot is now in a 45 and the possible male is in the 10.IMG_0208.JPG(Red spot after the fight/separation)
My current thoughts for a solution: I was thinking like I could possibly get a divider and be able to get them used to seeing each other and put that and them in the 45 gallon for a little bit remove it every week or two, to observe them and sepetate them if necessary and just keep trying that. Also the other day I just opened the tank and netted some debris of food out cause the red spot seems to be picky when I try to feed him the hikari floating so I fish them out when they sink so it doesn't dirty the water as bad, and it just jumped straight out in front of my face and onto the floor. So I thought maybe it'd be a good idea to get a fish net material and put that over the top of the tank

Reason for post: Anyways I'm making this post because most people on here seem to have knowledge on these sorts of things. And I could really use all the help I can get on this I've been interested in these fish for a few years.
Personal Bio/Background: Ive been slowly investing into the hobby of potentially breeding some aros. I have had aquariums and fish for like four or five years now, I've kept a few catfish and various freshwater fish, I currently have a few redtais, one is Asian and the other South American a couple oscars and a shovel nose twig or something. I understand that I'm eventually going to need a much bigger tank eventually

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One is a lei and the other is a Jardini which explains why they look different also Arowana are similar to humans when it comes to mates they tend to like choosing who they breed with I learned this the hard way trying to breed silvers on top of doing some research although they are young they will be aggressive towards each other what size tank did you have them in? Usually if the tank is huge they should be ok at that size together since they did start fighting already I will keep them separated so you don't lose either one of them maybe in a few months if you want you can try again but I wouldn't unless you have a really large tank are they eating? And what are you feeding them?
 
They've been eating pretty well, I feed them live meal worms mostly until they get used to these hikari carnisticks but I switch it up with blood worms, brine shrimp, and crickets too I feed them about 3 times a day so they're definitely good eaters. However I have a 45 I think I will put them in together when they're healed, they were in a 10 when the incident occured
 
Putting them together in a 10 gallon was a huge mistake that's like putting 2 jaguar cichlids in a 10 gallon they will murder each other for the breeding part no promises if they will and you'll need a minimum of a 220 with them alone in the tank they are way to young to determine gender they can both be males for all we know right now I also do not recommend putting them together in a 45 similar problems may occur that tank is too small I won't judge I'm sure you know the plans you have set for them if you want breeding tips I can give you some I was almost successful breeding my silver arowana and they all breed the same way
 
Well I appreciate the knowledge I I will be keeping them separate till they've healed for sure. I was curious though I've heard of some kind of DNA testing being possible to determine gender but I have no idea where or how I'd go about getting that done. Also, when I got the red spot it was in a 5 gallon tank with what appeared to be a sibling at this fishstore but they could have just been more tolerable to each other cause they'd been together for a while not sure but they also kept like 3 or 4 silver aros together in a 10. Also the red spot a couple weeks after I got him jumped out of the tank right in front of me when I was cleaning out uneaten food, so like would it ever be a good idea to put like a mesh net overtop of an aro tank or would it be more trouble than it's worth?
 
But yeah would totally love those breeding tips at some point. Don't they need to be like 2-3 years old before they're mature enough? I'll keep updating though no doubt. But lechardi and Jardinis are both native to Australia aren't they?
 
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Well I appreciate the knowledge I I will be keeping them separate till they've healed for sure. I was curious though I've heard of some kind of DNA testing being possible to determine gender but I have no idea where or how I'd go about getting that done. Also, when I got the red spot it was in a 5 gallon tank with what appeared to be a sibling at this fishstore but they could have just been more tolerable to each other cause they'd been together for a while not sure but they also kept like 3 or 4 silver aros together in a 10. Also the red spot a couple weeks after I got him jumped out of the tank right in front of me when I was cleaning out uneaten food, so like would it ever be a good idea to put like a mesh net overtop of an aro tank or would it be more trouble than it's worth?
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Keeping 3-4 silver aros in a 10g tank is like keeping 10 crap talking UFC guys in a 8x8 cell. Best advice get rid of one and get a new tank
 
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Bodey73 said:
But yeah would totally love those breeding tips at some point. Don't they need to be like 2-3 years old before they're mature enough? I'll keep updating though no doubt. But lechardi and Jardinis are both native to Australia aren't they?
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Fish stores have all types of fish crammed in a small tank bc that's how they come in the bag it's not smart to but they do it anyway also keeping a group of arowana together is easier than keeping a pair in the wild some are in a large group together and at breeding farms they are in a huge pond with about 50 of them easy. For them to be mature enough they need to be at least 3-4 years old, best to keep them alone because if they want to breed they will literally slaughter everything in the tank also what I recommend is definitely having ALL holes covered at the top of your tank they do jump a lot and will for no reason sometimes you can get a mesh top that'll be ok for now but once the arowana gets big it'll have the strength to jump and knock that top off your best option is to keep your normal tank cover and make sure all areas in the back where the filter is, covered up. Whenever you're ready you can message me and I'll tell you some breeding tips and when they are older I'll tell you the gender of the arowana you have I'll need a video to determine them
 
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