My Marbled Motoro collection....complete.
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I believe John c bred his marbles multiple times in a pond. He can confirm that. One of the MI guys keeps his in a pond as well I believe but I don't know if they are breeding for him. It seems there are lots of factors that go into breeding; room, water, tank mates, maturity, ratio m/f etc. Some people just seem to get lucky as well. Alan I think you have bred marbles multiple times haven't you? Maybe not as much as you'd like but I think you're holding back a little yourself. Oh and I believe youre due for a marble pic update as well
Best of luck venom. That future tank/pond sounds amazing. Hope it works out for you.
JohnC did breed his multiple times. Just like Craig, Brad, JimR, and Pat. And just like all the names mentioned they moved on to fancier rays. No point in breeding cheap brown rays when you can breed rays that actually bring in decent $.
I thought John kept his in 300 gallon rubbermaid tubs. A typical pond is usually double the volume or more making it easier for a female to escape a male. Point was more volume= smaller chances.
Only one I'm aware of currently breeding several pure Marbles on a regular basis is StingrayED. I know Scott (Tanglovers) is probably close, and I think Alex (MyblueM3) is too.
I'm currently waiting for pups from the biggest female, and hoping that all the marks on my other females result in movement like the big girl's showing. But after trying to breed them for like 4 years or better and being able to count on 1 hand the number of litters I wouldn't consider myself breeding them, but rather getting lucky every once in a while.... lol.
I'm sure I'll do an update once my little girl gets back home and finishes off my midget colony.
You're going to need several paradises......
Blackies and Marbles don't mix. Falks and blackies don't mix. Jags and Marbles don't mix. Not sure I'd mix Tigers with any of them....
But I understand..... Variety is good. It wouldn't be a ray addiction if it was as simple as getting a big tank and adding some rays.
It's too bad we can't get those crazy Crocodile Pearls over here...... I'd love to find a female similar in quality to my male.
Hey, my blackies and marbles mix very wellYou're going to need several paradises......
Blackies and Marbles don't mix.
Although I have wondered if the blacks could be the reason that the marble pair haven't bred. If my male doesn't get it going soon the male blackie is liable to get the cherry first..........Nice pickups Venom!
Hey, my blackies and marbles mix very well
Nice pickups Venom!
Think they're still gonna mix well when the blackies got them by a foot????
Sure they mix fine if similar in size, and it's enjoyable while it lasts, but eventually I bet you do what's best for the rays and split them up. And I bet when you do the pups follow....
It seems to me Marbles growth rates slow to a crawl somewhere between 7 and 12 inches. Irronically my blackies have seemed to take off growing at these sizes.
For the record I actually enjoy being proven wrong. So I hope I am, but in my case it just doesn't seem like a good idea long term.
I seem to have had the best luck keeping rays in species tanks. My blackies just got moved out of the Falk tank a few days ago and both species have been eating much more after seperation. And both are much more active. Maybe they were just overcrowded but it was obvious they are happier in different tanks. The overactive Falks just seemed to irritate the blackies.
Think they're still gonna mix well when the blackies got them by a foot????
Sure they mix fine if similar in size, and it's enjoyable while it lasts, but eventually I bet you do what's best for the rays and split them up. And I bet when you do the pups follow....
It seems to me Marbles growth rates slow to a crawl somewhere between 7 and 12 inches. Irronically my blackies have seemed to take off growing at these sizes.
For the record I actually enjoy being proven wrong. So I hope I am, but in my case it just doesn't seem like a good idea long term.
I seem to have had the best luck keeping rays in species tanks. My blackies just got moved out of the Falk tank a few days ago and both species have been eating much more after seperation. And both are much more active. Maybe they were just overcrowded but it was obvious they are happier in different tanks. The overactive Falks just seemed to irritate the blackies.
Can't say how things will go when the blacks get larger, but as for as eating and activity now they are all non stop and eating till they could pop if I would let them. My classic female is already as big as my male marble and is half the age, but the other male and female black which are BD/Leos aren't growing at nearly the pace of the Classic and they are all really close in age. Actually the male is the slowest grower of all the blacks. If necessary I will separate, but I don't think it will be for while. I remember reading somewhere quite a while back someone stating that BDs don't get as large as Regular
Leos. Don't have a clue if that is true or not
As for as the Marbles growth I would have to agree, female (appx 11") probably has not grown an inch in the last year to year and half, the male (appx 12" ) maybe an inch in that time.
Sorry for the derail Venom..........
I went over and saw them last night their gorgeous.. 1 has really great markings...the other 1 is really great spots the combination of them both is going to be unbelievable
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Only thing more unbelievable then some nice Marbles is more nice Marbles.....
Dang things are addictive. Hard to justify keeping a couple bigger species of rays when you can keep 2-3 times as many Marbles with similar tank size, bio load, and food bill.
LB for lb, $ for $ the best rays out there in my opinion.
Dang things are addictive. Hard to justify keeping a couple bigger species of rays when you can keep 2-3 times as many Marbles with similar tank size, bio load, and food bill.
LB for lb, $ for $ the best rays out there in my opinion.
