Pike is turning out to be a right character!! He owns most of the cichlids now, they battered him for a month or so but he has realised he is faster and has a deadly set of jaws to whip a few scales off, my butti is prob 5 times the weight although a similar length but owned... He snaps the frozen fish up like every piranha owner would be proud of, completely in half if side on! I'll try get a vid but its all very quick! Hoping he's with me for a while, he amongst 3 others had cotton mouth, lost my fenestratus the others pulled through after a dose of myacin 2... Glad I cleared that up and I won't be adding anymore fish now. Still like to see pics of any other odoe owners fish?