sorry guys haven't been on in awhile. I have 9 p's total. 4 orino's and 5 mono/ocellaris cant tell yet. There all pushing 5.5-6 except for one or two orino's, yes there alittle slow unless there females, who knows. There all doing great, going through about 200 feeders in a week, feeding 1x sometimes 2x aday. One filter for now, I'll be doing more work on it in the next couple of weeks.