took me about 4 1/2 minutes going at 600kb/sec
i was going to pickup a few more reds this weekend but the guy sold them all already T_T.
they were the same size as my current ones too , and only $7 each. o_o
i'll try the shrimp method, and i also had some questions about the plants.
wheres a good place to get some? my local petsmart / petco have crappy plants, i dont think there are any swords. i looked at a few online stores, but some didnt have pictures so i didnt know what to order

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can you recommend some for piranhas that provide cover and are easy to care for? i just want my Ps to be less skittish and not hide all the time.