You keep yours with tropical fish? Mine are at about 70 degrees, they're supposed to like quite cool water...I wonder if the captive bred ones aren't so fussy about water temp.
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I keep them with some tropicals at about 72 right now. Our clients keep them in the mid 70's too. They were raised from 1" in that environment.
I don't know what a fussy axolotl looks like. Can you tell if they don't like the temperature?
I don't know what a fussy axolotl looks like. Can you tell if they don't like the temperature?
72 is too high for them. anything over 70 and they start to stress.
Mid to low 60 is much better for them.
They should not be housed with fish. If they can catch them they will eat them. And the fish can nip at their gills stressing them.
They also should not have gravel/pebbles in the bottom of their tanks. Bare bottom or sand is much better. When they eat they suck the food in. They can and will suck in the rocks and end up impacted.
Mid to low 60 is much better for them.
They should not be housed with fish. If they can catch them they will eat them. And the fish can nip at their gills stressing them.
They also should not have gravel/pebbles in the bottom of their tanks. Bare bottom or sand is much better. When they eat they suck the food in. They can and will suck in the rocks and end up impacted.
GFP axies are awesome. I am waiting for more GFP things to come out now.
We just got an order of almost 300 3" axies that were all GFP at the local store. I agree that they should be kept in the mid 60's. We actually have all these guys and a few water dogs sharing an aquarium chiller.
We just got an order of almost 300 3" axies that were all GFP at the local store. I agree that they should be kept in the mid 60's. We actually have all these guys and a few water dogs sharing an aquarium chiller.
Damn that's a lot snakeguy! which store is that? Where in FL?
kearth, I will consider the gravel and the temp. Although the fish part is highly overstated. You just need to find the right fish. None of our customers with axolotls keep them without fish! We even have egg-layers successfully breeding in some of the tanks.
I've found the following are not to be house with them:
Most cichlids
Killies
Bichirs (no matter the size)
However, the angelfish and rainbows with them currently couldn't care any less about their presence. They have been in that tank for a few weeks now. And the axolotls are very, very bad at catching fish lol. However, I wouldn't make it easy for them, like with a large school of neon tetras or something.
They do occasionally suck in a pebble, but they never,ever swallow it. I would be more worried about sand becoming impacted. It happened to my lizard when I was little.
kearth, I will consider the gravel and the temp. Although the fish part is highly overstated. You just need to find the right fish. None of our customers with axolotls keep them without fish! We even have egg-layers successfully breeding in some of the tanks.
I've found the following are not to be house with them:
Most cichlids
Killies
Bichirs (no matter the size)
However, the angelfish and rainbows with them currently couldn't care any less about their presence. They have been in that tank for a few weeks now. And the axolotls are very, very bad at catching fish lol. However, I wouldn't make it easy for them, like with a large school of neon tetras or something.
They do occasionally suck in a pebble, but they never,ever swallow it. I would be more worried about sand becoming impacted. It happened to my lizard when I was little.
They will not become impacted from sand.
I am not saying they will not work with the right fish but I also do not know a lot of fish who like temps that low. or atleast the temps they should be kept at.
Give them time they will swallow a "pebble' and no be able to pass it. They have a hard time spitting anything back out. Their mouths are not designed to do that.
I have only been keeping them for a little over a year so I dont know it all I am just offering my opinion on what I have learned. Take it for what it is worth.
I am not saying they will not work with the right fish but I also do not know a lot of fish who like temps that low. or atleast the temps they should be kept at.
Give them time they will swallow a "pebble' and no be able to pass it. They have a hard time spitting anything back out. Their mouths are not designed to do that.
I have only been keeping them for a little over a year so I dont know it all I am just offering my opinion on what I have learned. Take it for what it is worth.
Pomatomus;4968569; said:Damn that's a lot snakeguy! which store is that? Where in FL?
Hogtown herps in Gainesville.
kearth;4969979; said:They will not become impacted from sand.
I am not saying they will not work with the right fish but I also do not know a lot of fish who like temps that low. or atleast the temps they should be kept at.
Give them time they will swallow a "pebble' and no be able to pass it. They have a hard time spitting anything back out. Their mouths are not designed to do that.
I have only been keeping them for a little over a year so I dont know it all I am just offering my opinion on what I have learned. Take it for what it is worth.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't post anything on this forum if I didn't welcome constructive criticism. I will keep a close eye on the gravel, and will set up a tank with sand for them soon. Did yours swallow gravel, or was this through the grapevine?
I asked my boss about the temperature. The breeder told him they get stressed over 75, but it isn't lethal. They just won't breed over 75. Still, I will keep it below that. I don't have a chiller, so I'll just have to keep my apartment a few degrees cooler in the summer.
snakeguy101;4969981; said:Hogtown herps in Gainesville.
Cool! Not too far from me. Out of curiosity, how much do you buy or sell them for?
We only do aquarium maintenance and only sell organisms to our clients, so don't worry, I'm not part of a competing business.
Pomatomus;4971376; said:Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't post anything on this forum if I didn't welcome constructive criticism. I will keep a close eye on the gravel, and will set up a tank with sand for them soon. Did yours swallow gravel, or was this through the grapevine?
I asked my boss about the temperature. The breeder told him they get stressed over 75, but it isn't lethal. They just won't breed over 75. Still, I will keep it below that. I don't have a chiller, so I'll just have to keep my apartment a few degrees cooler in the summer.
I have seen it happen many times. Mine do not swallow gravel as I do not keep them on gravel. Mine have slate on the bottom. Many Many times I have seen it with other axolotls.
They get stressed starting about 70-72ish. By 75 they are going to quit eating as much and very slowly start deteriorating. They more than likely will not breed with temps around 70 either let alone 75ish.
Try for temps in the low 60's to mid 60's is what they should be kept at for them to be kept properly. They actually breed very well about the mid 50's.
