My Water Parameters are Bad

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
There should be no reason for you to sneak a WC.Start a syphon and put the output in your toilet.The bowl will stay the same level,as toilets are self-leveling due to the one way routing on the toilet.Even if you dumped a full 5 gallon bucket into your toilet it would keep up. As above suggested,cycle your tanks,cut down on immediate feedings and change your water.A five gallon poland spring jug is good for this.
 
If you dump a 5 gallon bucket of water in a Toilet it will flush...thats how they are designed. In fact it'll happen with a lot less water if the flows fast enough. It's better to use the shower...in most cases they are lower.
 
Wolf3101;1206309; said:
So were starting over on a tank that has yet to fully cycle...:screwy:

Bio-filtration is something that happens naturally...NOT something we buy and install. No mater what quick INSTANT methouds you hear about...the truth is that it takes an aquarium AT LEAST 6 weeks to fully cycle and stabolize. The more you mess around with it...add chemicals...force large water changes and alter bio-loads...the LONGER it's going to take.

I used 50 gallons from my old tank.
I put my cycled fitlers onto my new tank.
i put all things (plants and rocks) in my old tank into my new tank.
i treated the water before putting in my fish (dechlorinated it by letting it stand for 24hours and i used amquel).
 
Yakuza-Irezumi;1206330; said:
There should be no reason for you to sneak a WC.Start a syphon and put the output in your toilet.The bowl will stay the same level,as toilets are self-leveling due to the one way routing on the toilet.Even if you dumped a full 5 gallon bucket into your toilet it would keep up. As above suggested,cycle your tanks,cut down on immediate feedings and change your water.A five gallon poland spring jug is good for this.

I did a 15% water change last night. I also added a three inch gravel substrate.

I think the problem lies in not having a substrate. I think with this many fishes in this size tank a substrate is probably needed if one is not using a sump.

I will do another water-change tonight (10%). thanks.
 
yourockit;1206387; said:
I used 50 gallons from my old tank.
I put my cycled fitlers onto my new tank.
i put all things (plants and rocks) in my old tank into my new tank.
i treated the water before putting in my fish (dechlorinated it by letting it stand for 24hours and i used amquel).

All of those things will REDUCE the cycle time but wont ever eliminate it....

Filters cycle to the bio-load of the host tank and still require time to stabolize...they are never...DONE as it where. Bio-filtration and cycling is an on going process that just reaches a safe LEVEL for our fish. If you transfur less BB than the new tank needs then more will have to establish itself. If you transfur MORE than you need then the BB will die off. The problem with this is that if the die off is large enough it will cause a cascade failure that can take out the entire colony.

What are the readings on the tap water your using before it goes into the tank?

Are you even testing your water at all?

I honestly didn't respond to your question to point fingers but rather to solve a problem. you seem fairly defencive for someone with a water quality problem.

We did ask about your water peramitors and a time line on this tank a while ago and recieved no responce.
 
Wolf3101;1206419; said:
All of those things will REDUCE the cycle time but wont ever eliminate it....

Filters cycle to the bio-load of the host tank and still require time to stabolize...they are never...DONE as it where. Bio-filtration and cycling is an on going process that just reaches a safe LEVEL for our fish. If you transfur less BB than the new tank needs then more will have to establish itself. If you transfur MORE than you need then the BB will die off. The problem with this is that if the die off is large enough it will cause a cascade failure that can take out the entire colony.

What are the readings on the tap water your using before it goes into the tank?

Are you even testing your water at all?

I honestly didn't respond to your question to point fingers but rather to solve a problem. you seem fairly defencive for someone with a water quality problem.

We did ask about your water peramitors and a time line on this tank a while ago and recieved no responce.

sorry for the late response. sometimes i have to go before answering all the questions.

im sorry for seeming defensive or rude. itruly appreciate you taking the time with me on this issue. i am extremelt frustrated with my tank situation.
i am also fighting with my gf as i write this. and my bank balance is $0.61.

i have tested my tap water. ammonia:1. ph: 6.8. nitrates: 0.25. nitrites:0

my fishes are starving. they have eaten very little in the last three days.
 
yourockit;1206454; said:
sorry for the late response. sometimes i have to go before answering all the questions.

im sorry for seeming defensive or rude. itruly appreciate you taking the time with me on this issue. i am extremelt frustrated with my tank situation.
i am also fighting with my gf as i write this. and my bank balance is $0.61.

i have tested my tap water. ammonia:1. ph: 6.8. nitrates: 0.25. nitrites:0

my fishes are starving. they have eaten very little in the last three days.

how large are these caribas? unless they are very small i doubt they are starving. feeding them lightly will not hurt anything. get them through the next few weeks and hope this tank finishes cycling.

goodluck.
 
demjor19;1206497; said:
how large are these caribas? unless they are very small i doubt they are starving. feeding them lightly will not hurt anything. get them through the next few weeks and hope this tank finishes cycling.

goodluck.
they are 4-5". what do you recomend?
 
The fish should be fine...the main thing you need is some more time. Your tap water may be causing you more problems than it's solving at this point. Your bio-load is not that huge that a PAIR of FX5's can't handle it. It will just take a bit of time.

Step back...take a deep breath and just wait. it'll be fine.
 
yourockit;1206511; said:
they are 4-5". what do you recomend?

honestly i would just do normal light feedings and let this blow over. there is really nothing more you can do. when i first moved to OH from PA (w/ all my fish) i was forced to set up my 180 w/ no time to let it cycle. i experienced the same crappy water parameters and was very stressed out like you are, but just let it run it's course. things should be fine.
 
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