Soon i will post pics of the pond, it is silted, about 8 feet deep. I was up there today watching them. usually it is just an occasional glimpse but today they were all in the shallows rooting in the marsh grass. It would appear at least in two instances that two males were following a female! which means i have to hurry to get the eggs collected! wish me luck i'll be busy for the next couple weeks but hopefully i get some good pics to post!