Mysterious fish deaths

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Mitchh

Feeder Fish
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Jan 28, 2012
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Des Plaines
300g reef
Blue line 70hd
2 hydor
Ro/Di water
wetdry
Tunze skimmer
Ca Reactor
Chiller
1.5" of sand substrate
300lbs+ of live rock.


H20
Nh4 0
N02 0
N03 10ppm
Ph 8.2
Alk 10
0-.03
Ca 420


I have a client that we maintain their reef tank for the past 6 years very successfully We continually service their tank every 2 weeks with 25% h20 changes and general maintenance. One day they had a die off of all fish. No inverts had died except for cleaner shrimp. Funny thing is that the corals are thriving. We found that the skimmer over collected and expelled the effluent back in to the sump causing a film of protein on the water depriving fish of oxygen. After the fish kill we tore down the reef completely rinsed the rock vacuumed the substrate thoroughly and rebuilt the reef. I have done multiple h20 changes and stabilized the system bringing parameters back in optimal ranges.Yes the kill did add ammonia naturally.

After a few weeks we added a few Chromis that lived for 24hrs then died. The fish showed rapid breathing before kicking the bucket. Keep in mind H20 test show excellent water conditions through out this entire processes. I tested Oxygen levels with a sailfert kit and test came out as ideal. We then tested for stray electricity, but there was none. Either way we added a second grounding probe into the display tank in addition to the one that was already in the sump. We tried adding fish multiple times over a few months with the same results. Everything that we can test for in this industry we have tried. every time we come back with Excellent water quality results.

There obviously was some form of contamination to the tank that is only affecting fish. Further investigation of the system I then ran a magnet through the A.R.M in the calcium reactor and found metal debris. I since removed the ca reactor completely. Just for the heck of it i ran it through the substrate also and picked up a few tiny grains of metal. I ran an iron test, no iron present. I then added a poly filter also but it never changed color. I decided to tear down the reef and add new substrate and rinse the rock.

After a few more weeks I did manage to stock the tank with some more fish, they held out great for a 3 months and then boom! one after another show signs of rapid breathing and die. within 24hrs. No other signs of parasitic or bacterial infections. I then pull out as many fish as i can and bring them back to the shop and acclimate them to my quarantine system. Within a hour fish are back to normal. At this time I'm absolutely baffled.

Last week I had done another service and added 3 Blue and yellow damsels 1 has died the others are doing fine so far. I should also add that there is a Swiss guard that has been in the tank for months showing no signs of stress and has out lasted many fish.

Any ideas would be great. I'm sure I have left out some information and if it comes up Ill answer those. Thanks.
 
Nope the tank is built into the wall. It is completely enclosed only access is in the filtration room. House keeping was informed not to touch the tank with anything. There is always some one there when the cleaning is being done and have watched them. We only use freshwater rag or Safe n' Easy to clean the acrylic viewing panes. Also I had asked if they were using any pesticides or fumigate for bugs but they don't. No painting or varnishing has been done in the office either.
 
Only one person feeds the fish and has been for the entire time. She wears no lotion and washes her hands before feeding. Granted she thaws food in a cup and pours it in. I have since replaced there food with new packs if fear of spoilage. Along with that I have replaced all their supplements too. We buy in bulk and refill our bottles so if there was a contaminated bottle our other reefs would show the same signs.
 
Have you changed RO filters through all of this?

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You got me - my initial thought was chlorine or chloramine but now I am leaning towards a build up of neurotoxin - try running 3 cups of carbon @ 100 gph reactor at the very least it'll start to clean up whatever it is.
 
Are there any metal fittings?
Possibly the pump is coming apart, the bearings or the shaft or the impeller might be deteriorating if they are metal


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I think rust would discolor the water. Definitely a possibility though. Is your pump making more noise than usual?

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You got me - my initial thought was chlorine or chloramine but now I am leaning towards a build up of neurotoxin - try running 3 cups of carbon @ 100 gph reactor at the very least it'll start to clean up whatever it is.

What would release neurotoxin? Fighting corals? All the corals were doing really good though. Was anything added to the tank around the time when this started happening? I was going to suggest it as a last resort but maybe get all new dry rock. Seems to be the only thing that you haven't changed.

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