Myth Or truth?

[bigpeacock]

catfish have this crazy slime and they have crazy spines and when the spines stab you the slime ****s your **** up............trust me it hurts i stepped on one and boy i dont ever want to do that again

 

[fishnutham]

Hmm.....fish slime or urine......descisions descisions. xD
Isn't urine to help jellyfish?

urinating on a jellyfish sting is a myth it dosent help at all..

 

[Oddball]

The spine has to break the skin for the venom to be effective. Some people that have high allergic reactions, in general, may have skin reactions without breaking the epidermal layer.

Urea will encourage jellyfish nematocysts to sting. White vinegar is the preferred first aid treatment. Meat tenderizer will stop the nematocysts that haven't discharged yet. But, meat tenderizer should not be left on the skin for more than 15 minutes. Any rinsing must be done with either white vinegar and salt water or plain salt water. Rinsing the sting site with fresh water, rubbing the wound, or using alcohol, spirits, ammonia, or urine will encourage the release of venom from the nematocysts.
After first aid measures, get medical help to remove the tentacles and nematocysts.

 

[croc 2-3]

But how does it happen. can it just be from a brush up on the side. or does he have to freak out and run into u with that little gun?

It happens from any puncture of the skin by the spine. If no open wound occurs then the protein does not enter the blodd stream(at least not in painful amounts. As stated if this does happen it will hurt but run the area in as hot as you can stand water or some type of heat source(rock, direct sun) if no hot water is available(if you're fishing). The heats causes the protein to spread apart rendering it ineffective. No real problems should occur unless you're the first "known" person to develop an allergic reaction to it or may already have allergies to sea food.

 

[fishnutham]

The spine has to break the skin for the venom to be effective. Some people that have high allergic reactions, in general, may have skin reactions without breaking the epidermal layer.

Urea will encourage jellyfish nematocysts to sting. White vinegar is the preferred first aid treatment. Meat tenderizer will stop the nematocysts that haven't discharged yet. But, meat tenderizer should not be left on the skin for more than 15 minutes. Any rinsing must be done with either white vinegar and salt water or plain salt water. Rinsing the sting site with fresh water, rubbing the wound, or using alcohol, spirits, ammonia, or urine will encourage the release of venom from the nematocysts.
After first aid measures, get medical help to remove the tentacles and nematocysts.

At best, urinating on a jellyfish sting will do nothing. Experiments indicate that in some jellyfish species, urine actually sets off the remaining stinging cells, making the sting even worse.

The urine cure and other folk remedies miss the mark, anyway. The point of rinsing the wounded area is not to alleviate the pain. The venom’s already in you. Urinating on it will not help any more than it does to urinate on your thumb after you hit it with a hammer.

The point of the rinse is to get rid of any remaining tentacles or other jellyfish tissue that might still harbor stinging cells, or nematocysts, which could still fire and make the sting worse. (These cells, which are all over jellyfish, contain a tiny poison dart that shoots out at a touch or because of a chemical reaction; thousands of them typically fire simultaneously.) For the aforementioned reason, urine is a terrible candidate for the job.

Susan Scott, “Oceanwatch” columnist for the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, has investigated jellyfish stings in the field (as well as in the lab) probably as much as anyone, having spent years visiting injured tourists and the like on Hawaii’s beaches. A registered nurse, she and husband Dr. Craig Thomas authored “All Stings Considered: First Aid and Medical Treatment of Hawai’i’s Marine Injuries.”

In her column in 2001, Scott summed up years of study on a variety of sting “cures”: “Nothing worked.” In an e-mail to me, she summed it up another way: “Anything works.”

This paradox goes to the heart of the urine myth. “Nothing worked” means that none of the main folk remedies—including urine, meat tenderizer and commercial sprays—did anything to stop the pain of a sting.

On the other hand, “Anything works,” because the vast majority of jellyfish stings are not severe and their effects disappear within a few hours at most, no matter whether you urinate on yourself or simply do nothing.

 

[amesbien]

Urinating on it will not help any more than it does to urinate on your thumb after you hit it with a hammer.

 

[Bizzaro]

Lol otay ill remember this next time i have to handle the little guy. little? his allmost 8inch should i just have some light gloves on? if i dont want to net him?

 

[guppy]

I guarantee that the dorsal and pectoral fins of channel cats are both sharp and barbed, while they have no actual venom glands or sacks like vipers do the barbed fins are coated in a sheath of easily shed tissue that contains both toxins and long chain protiens that tend to trigger allergic reactions in both reptiles and mammals.
To me this means tyhat they are venomous, ity depends on how you define the term.
http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLandingES/Ecology/mpages/channel_catfish.htm

 

[kakojones]

I think the worst part of a channel cat sting from the fins is the actual reaction you may have to it (allergic or otherwise). I have been tagged by a few on several fishing trips and it only hurt for a couple minutes, where one of my fishin' pals got tagged by one once and he was in pain for a few hours. the easiest way to avoid it, when fishing, is to turn it onto its back and grab just behind the pectoral fins while they are sticking out this way they can't get you.
as for getting one out of a tank to move him.....i have no idea.

 

[Bud8Fan]

Isn't this a pisser of a thread.