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ballinouttacntrol said:
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San Antonio spurs. OKC. Indiana. Plenty of good small market teams. Its just that some cities are destination cities. Nothing to do with the market. You can't erase the Lakers or Boston's history. You can't change that Orlando and Miami have tax advantages. You can't erase the shadow Jordan placed over Chicago. You can't change that NY is the media capital of the world.

Everyone else needs to look at SA and OKC and GS and build properly. It starts in the front office and a commitment to winning. The other franchises will always attract free agents but small markets are not hopeless
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I will not consider OKC a small market yet when a large amount of assets (and the best one they have have in Durant) came from Seattle. They still have many ties and I am sure many fans from Seattle, Durant was beloved in that city.

and if you read the article I posted earlier you will see that the spurs are not included in this group, they are always good, have a great mix of talent coaching and front office work. Good for them.


"its just that some cities are destination cities. Nothing to do with the market" the destination is absolutely part of the market!

Small markets are absolutely not hopeless you are correct, but it is much better for the NBA when it is more competitive (which I believe it is right now). I mean look at how many viewers rally around the small team like the Pacers to beat Miami. "blue collar" "hard working" Heard this **** 1000 times during that series. How long do these rallies from small teams usually last? I would say 3-5 years, when they have star players under medium size contracts. The lakers, celtics (besides the early and mid 2000s from what I can remember) are always in the playoffs because they pick off these players from small market teams.

I also think it is a trend for players to run off to NYC or LA. I remember my dad saying players use to be loyal, they expected to play for the same team for most of the playing career, and fans loved that.

All I am trying to say in short is that I don't see these successful small market teams staying very relevant in the near future.
 
Durant never played a game for Seattle. Ray Allen and rashard lewis were the face of the team. They completely redid the roster the year they were stolen. Lewis signed with Orlando and ray Allen was traded to Boston and they had the #2 draft pick. They reset in a new market through the draft.

Completely clean slate. No different then what other teams have the opportunity to do.

This isn't our parents league. With social media and a 24 hour news cycle and people being more connected then any other time in history. It should be no surprise that doctors, lawyers, dentists, businesses are moving to destination cities to better their lives. Be it more money, less taxes, better night life, ideal geography, more opportunities for your family etc etc. Our athletes are doing the same.

If you build a winner though, your players will stay

If small markets can't build through the draft, that's upper managements fault. Look at all the bad draft decisions they make.
 
I also want to point out a buyer from OKC bought Seattle under agreement they would stay if the city built a new stadium, then bolted. They had to leave all connections to Seattle behind including history and team colors


it's popular to root against any top team that is at the top too long. The fact that it happen to be San Antonio and Indiana that gave Miami a scare is coincident. They'd have rooted just as hard for Boston or Chicago or NY to dethrone the heat


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"It should be no surprise that doctors, lawyers, dentists, businesses are moving to destination cities to better their lives. Be it more money, less taxes, better night life, ideal geography, more opportunities for your family etc etc. Our athletes are doing the same"

I graduated from Drake about a year ago and I am still living in Des Moines, Des Moines is the best place for businesses and careers according to Forbes. I would not call Des Moines, Iowa a destination city. Yes you can work at Wells Fargo or Nationwide or Facebook in a cubicle and support a family, still would not call it a destination city.

One of the reasons that I respected KG so much (even though he was a thug) was because of his loyalty. He hated the upper management, and rightfully so, they only put a really solid squad around him one time. He loved the fans, that was why he stayed so long (maybe also that record contract ha). I don't think he would have left if he had a Facebook and a twitter to talk about what kinda cheese he got on his Subway. Then again this is all just my opinion ha
 
I didn't say it applies for everyone, not everyone wants to live in big cities or near water or tropical weather.

Its just a trend that's been studied over the last 20 years.

If des moine is a destination for those type of jobs then I'm sure in the information age people will migrate there

I personally love an athlete that gets the opportunity to spend his entire career in one city but truth is, 95% won't be given the opportunity. They shouldn't owe it to the teams to be loyal when teams aren't loyal to them either

KG only stayed in Minnesota cuz he had the highest paid contract at the time. Could've taken less and played with better players. They had a good run though


I don't mean social media to talk about your day, but to connect and build friendships with other stars/players
 
Maybe reaching with "all time"...I cant think of any better NBA team names, or NFL. I also was thinking about the teams colors, which I really liked.
 
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