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thebiggerthebetter said:
Walking catfish are usually quite competitive with any other fish, I predict your bichirs will not get any/much food with those guys present in the tank. They are relentless survivalists and outcompete almost any fish for food and space and territory. They will grow to 1.5' rather quickly and will eat anything they can fit in their mouth.
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Hmm maybe not then... im fine with big eaters but I dont want something thats going to harass my current stock.

Is there any similar catfish (active, weird looking cats) that are less aggressive?

justarn said:
suncat?
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I had one awhile ago, never saw him

SharptoothBass said:
Dont think u would have any aggression problems my lil brother has a tank of them (hes in japan in the navy) hes been trying to breed them he has 4 of them along with some barbs plecos and even some very tiny chinese algae eaters with no problems they are around 10 inches he says. They will make it very very hard for your polys to eat they are relentless feeders that will pig out at every feeding and that will most likely be your biggest problem. I have also kept thim in my old asian predator tank with fish like Marble sleeper gobys,snakeheads,asian arows,clown knifes,asian redtails and giant gourami and had no aggression issues other that minor tuff disputes but no killing. Ill try to see if i can get my lil bro to takes some pics or a vid hes already dreading leaving his fish in japan.
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Thanks for the suggestions, its weird he has them with such small fish

baji said:
Walking catfish are active only when they are hungry... If their stomach is full they play dead... Will reach adult size in 6-8 months, super aggressive only when their is food in the tank...

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So theyre only aggressive when hungry?

Any suggestions for some more cool cats?


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These are specialty cats rather. Not as hardy as most common ones. They will eat anything that will fit in their large mouth.

If you get 6-10 suncats, they will be far more active, especially after they put on some size. A group of 10 lima shovelnoses is spectacular also and so is a group of 20 Pimelodus pictus.
 
thebiggerthebetter said:
These are specialty cats rather. Not as hardy as most common ones. They will eat anything that will fit in their large mouth.

If you get 6-10 suncats, they will be far more active, especially after they put on some size. A group of 10 lima shovelnoses is spectacular also and so is a group of 20 Pimelodus pictus.
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My water quality is pretty much perfect, and I am fine with big eaters, PCF also has their max size listed at 11" which means all my fish are to big to be eaten. What do you mean by speciality cat?

My problem with sun cats is that they are always around 2" when at my lfs and all my fish can eat fish that size. I like limas as well but theyre pretty pricey around here...

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They are a bit unpredictable from what I have been reading and seeing.

Heath-wise, they can be touchy in transport and acclimatizations sometimes but other times they appear fine. They appear less tolerant of less than perfect water parameters than most common ones.

Predation-wise, they are one of those surprising cats that can eat or attempt to eat a fish of its own size (IME); have you seen Industrial's (Tyler from "The Fish Place, Tonawanda/Buffalo, NY) comment on PCF: --http://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=680 -- Industrial (k: 2), who also notes: "My fish show no boundaries as to what is considered food. Mine ate angelfish half it's size as well as predatory characins 3/4 it's length."

In that way not too different from their woodcat cousins gulpers http://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=961 and trachycorystes http://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=965

Same for compatibility with its kin. Days, weeks, months - fine. Then one day, one tries to eat the other or beats it up to death.

They are highly predatory woodcats and IDK how easy they are to wean off live.

They are amazing cats though. So if you feel up to it, read up on them and try it! And keep us posted.
 
thebiggerthebetter said:
They are a bit unpredictable from what I have been reading and seeing.

Heath-wise, they can be touchy in transport and acclimatizations sometimes but other times they appear fine. They appear less tolerant of less than perfect water parameters than most common ones.

Predation-wise, they are one of those surprising cats that can eat or attempt to eat a fish of its own size (IME); have you seen Industrial's (Tyler from "The Fish Place, Tonawanda/Buffalo, NY) comment on PCF: --http://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=680 -- Industrial (k: 2), who also notes: "My fish show no boundaries as to what is considered food. Mine ate angelfish half it's size as well as predatory characins 3/4 it's length."

In that way not too different from their woodcat cousins gulpers http://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=961 and trachycorystes http://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=965

Same for compatibility with its kin. Days, weeks, months - fine. Then one day, one tries to eat the other or beats it up to death.

They are highly predatory woodcats and IDK how easy they are to wean off live.

They are amazing cats though. So if you feel up to it, read up on them and try it! And keep us posted.
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i saw that comment on pcf about their huge appetites but then i read a thread like this: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?109688-Ageneiosus-marmoratus and get some conflicting info some people say they are peaceful as can be and others very predatory. i hope they don't have the temperament of gulpers and black woodcats though...
 
That's what unpredictable is :)

Seriously though, a lot of these discrepancies could be explainable if we knew all the important details, especially the kinds and sizes of all their tank-mates in each case. But we don't. It's bits and pieces, here and there.
 
thebiggerthebetter said:
That's what unpredictable is :)

Seriously though, a lot of these discrepancies could be explainable if we knew all the important details, especially the kinds and sizes of all their tank-mates in each case. But we don't. It's bits and pieces, here and there.
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Yea, I hear ya. Im probably going to get him, I doubt he will be able to eat any fish I have seeing that they only get around 11 inches and all my fish are 8"+. Ill keep everyone updated though.

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I suggest to continue on here or dedicating a thread just to your new A. marmoratus. Always the easiest to follow and eliminates confusion and searching times.
 
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