Need geo ID please

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the lower one looks like an Altrifons because of the trailers. Other one looks like G. abalios or bahia red

All species within the surinamensis complex have filaments (trailers, streamers or other descriptions). G. abalios falls into this complex and can grow amazing filaments.

No two geos have the same lengths as they break off easily especially with tanks makes.
 
thanks all and my eyeball measurements were wrong he's pushing 10-11"
 
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