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Veiltail Tiger Oscar and very low grade female Flowerhorn. I don't see a reason to say its a fader though.

What do you think goes into making a flowerhorn?? That is why I mentioned it. There are definite Trimac traits there.

Thats clearly a dirty* Flowerhorn, no way is that a pure Trimac. Some low grade Flowerhorn very closely resemble a Trimac to where its impossible to distinguish and some have a dirty look to them that makes its very apparent they are not Trimac. Secondly the fish was not bought as a Trimac and not from a rep source so its best to assume its not pure, even though in this case its clearly not a Trimac.

*I'm not saying this to disparage the fish
 
Veiltail Tiger Oscar and very low grade female Flowerhorn. I don't see a reason to say its a fader though.



Thats clearly a dirty* Flowerhorn, no way is that a pure Trimac. Some low grade Flowerhorn very closely resemble a Trimac to where its impossible to distinguish and some have a dirty look to them that makes its very apparent they are not Trimac. Secondly the fish was not bought as a Trimac and not from a rep source so its best to assume its not pure, even though in this case its clearly not a Trimac.

*I'm not saying this to disparage the fish

My bad...I know nothing about Trimacs ;)
 
second one is a flowerhorn firemouth hybrid. look at the shape of the fins that says firemouth and the rest says flowerhorn
 
The second pic could be a flowerhorn and.midas mix. Hybrids sometimes do not get the spotting especially if the midas or devil was a blotched one.

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