Need help identifying these Kelberis

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I do not think they are orino at all. It is so hard to tell where kelberi are from until adult. If they are kelberi they should start to spangled the analysis fin by 12-13 inches. Some locations larger than that. Keep the pictures coming.

Local fishkeepers also suggest that these aren't orinos, and they also say that it's too early to tell without spangling yet. But they are positive that these are kelbs as well, just not sure about the exact variant. I guess I'm gonna have to wait for them to spangle. Im really curious as to where thry sre exactly from because of how they show unique and interesting coloration (compared to my bahia) even at this size.

Here are some pics I took after feeding them last night. Can I just say that Kelberis are an absolute pain in the neck to get off-live food. They haven't eaten anything for 2 weeks before they took a bite out of the market prawns all their cichla tankmates seem to enjoy lol

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I'm getting kind of lucky with two of my baby Kels. One didn't eat nothing the 1-2nd day. It's been about a week and a half and their eating market shrimp and took a lot of carnivore pellets afterwards. Fed them all catfish fillet that my pops caught and they munch on that like there's no tomorrow. The 2 Kels I got from Wes both look slightly different. The smaller one has a lot of black spots all over him as where the bigger one has none. It's golden all over. Here's a video link of them a day ago. It doesn't show as good compare to being in person here in this video.

 
They look like orino to me
 
I guess the only way to really find out is to wait until they get bigger.

This is a orino I just purchased from Wes. Yours seem to be larger than my orino, they look very similar

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Maybe it's a kelrino?
 
thad be sweet cigars cigars ! definitely leaning toward Orino but the more i look the more I have a tiny bit of doubt
 
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