Need help with outdoor pond

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At first I did not know and was asking for advice. Since I got none I went and did my own research and actually talked to some experts in my area and over the internet. I really don't see your point in trolling. As I said before, some guy on here has a flowerpot with half this volume of water and it does fine. There is mosquitofish that are breeding and flagfish that have survived for months, including all of winter. That is where I got my inspiration from. And this is sorta of like an expirment for me. If it fails that is fine. This is teaching me for when I actually do a large pond in the future.
 
You could never do this on large scale.. ammonia will be through the roof, and you will have nothing but algae.

Even natural ponds have filtration.

Fish are living things, and subjecting them to horrible conditions is not cool.

I have a pond, and it's no where near what you are doing, nor will your "project" teach you anything about a ponds upkeep.

I want to see this "expert" with his flowerpot of fish...
 
Never said the flowerpot guy was an expert. I only got my inspiration from him. If I was to do a pond on a large scale there will be filtration. This is only a cheap and easy project. It is no koi pond for sure, but fine for fish that live in swamps and can survive and thrive in stagnant and low oxygen water. If nothing more this will only grow some plants and breed mosquito fish.
 
Pond has cleared up a little bit. Went out and did some testing.

PH: 8.0
Ammonia: 0
Nitrate: 10 ppm
Outside temps: 80 F
Temp at surface of water: 74 F - 75 F
Temp at bottom of pond: 68 F

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It's a place in sunland california. They are called Sunland Water Gardens. Really nice place with lots of plants and even livestock like goldfish, kois, turtles, frogs, tadpoles, catfish, mosquito fish etc.

There is one other place I know, it is an LFS in Canoga Park, but they don't have much. If you are not around this area I would suggest doing google searches for pond plants or pond business and include your zip code. Another great way to get plants is find some locally. Visit a lake, stream, creek, pond somewhere around you. I am thinking about going up to the canyon over here and collecting plants, maybe even small fish.
 
Also, if you decide to buy plants make sure they can live. In other words, buy some that can live year round in the pond. The Water Hyacinth's I have will die off in the winter, but will reboot themselves in spring. Some plants bloom in the spring while others bloom in fall. When they are out of their season they will die off, but come back. The Iris and Parrot's feather will survive and grow year round.

That is why my 2 Water Hyacinth's look a little ugly, they are just rebounding from the cold, soon they should bloom and start looking good.
 
U will do fine I currently have a 50 gallon rubber maid grow out for a snapping turtle (I found and rescued) I have 4 pond plants for filtration ,5 all male mosquito fish and a small 30gph pump in there. All the plants are on one end and the pump pushes the water to the plants and then the turtle bask on the plants
 
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Thanks man, this is probably what I am gonna keep in there. There is a few other species of Pygmy sunfish too, but they are slightly bigger. But still under 2 inches. Some guy told me mixing them with mosquito fish is a bad idea, because mosquito fish nip fins and may even kill the Sun fish. He did recommend killifish and swamp darters.
 
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