need info for first gar

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gars are illegal in utah.
UTAH:

From the Utah Department of Natural Resources regulations:

(1) All species of fish listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, importation and possession, except:

a- Koi, Cyprinidae Family (Cyprinus carpio) is prohibited for collection, and noncontrolled for importation and possession;

b- all species and subspecies of ornamental fish not listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, and noncontrolled for importation and possession; and

c- all species and subspecies of non-ornamental fish not listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, and controlled for importation and possession.

(15) Gar, Lepidsosteidae Family (All species).
 
the best gar is the one that you can take care of.
properly.;)
 
xander;4389618; said:
only true for florida gars. although spotted gars may have similiar captive care requirements, they are pretty darn hard to get. shortnose are not good "started" gar. i'll leave it open to your own research to find out why;)

In Illinois spotted gar as the easy to get, I have 2 of them atm, both about 6" long now...Im finding the other kinds harder to get around this area.
 
SnaKeheAdSrAwSomE;4389777; said:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191893&page=4

gars are illegal in utah.
UTAH:

From the Utah Department of Natural Resources regulations:

(1) All species of fish listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, importation and possession, except:

a- Koi, Cyprinidae Family (Cyprinus carpio) is prohibited for collection, and noncontrolled for importation and possession;

b- all species and subspecies of ornamental fish not listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, and noncontrolled for importation and possession; and

c- all species and subspecies of non-ornamental fish not listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, and controlled for importation and possession.

(15) Gar, Lepidsosteidae Family (All species).

Hey does it mention anything about the Atractosteus family?
 
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yeah that includes atractoseus as well

Experiment397;4389543; said:
^+1 i have heard that the spotted/florida or shortnose is the best starter gar, cause they are smaller and easier to obtain.

There is a very large issue with shortys. they are highly nervous/skittish species and this results in many deaths.

conner has lost over half of his shortys if im not mistakin. I lost one. Pej has lost one with 2in of foam around the tank so they couldnt hurt themselves. they are jumpy and often break their backs.
 
Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4391831; said:
^
yeah that includes atractoseus as well



There is a very large issue with shortys. they are highly nervous/skittish species and this results in many deaths.

conner has lost over half of his shortys if im not mistakin. I lost one. Pej has lost one with 2in of foam around the tank so they couldnt hurt themselves. they are jumpy and often break their backs.

sorry was reading it wrong!
 
I've also lost a shortnose in the past to "random shortnose death syndrome". I am guessing it was a spine issue.

Not a beginner gar for sure-
 
this is true. u need exp caring for gar before u even think about them.
 
My cousin had a spotted gar he kept in a 55 gallons by itself for several years. He insisted he never fed it anything but pellets and I don't think the water conditions were much better than a puddle on the interstate. I've kept a longnose, several spotted and even an alligator gar with a variety of other fish in larger tanks (180-265 gallons) and never had an issue except for jumping, so I always kept the lids weighted down. It's been quite a few years, but as I recall they were all slow growers even with an ample live food supply and good water quality (to be honest I didn't keep the alligator gar very long after I brought him home on an impulse and did my research). My vote is for the spotted gar mostly because you don't run as much of a risk of damage to the nose as with the long nose variety and they also tend to be cheap and readily available.
 
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