i agree alsoIn my opinion orino's are the easiest to train. Start w/ frozen bloodworms. After 3 days or so of feeding the frozen bloodworms.....try and feed a good 3x a day to get them used to you....feed in the same spot everytime. After the 3rd day or so start crushing in some hikari cichlid gold sinking pellets. Add a little more each time. Dont just dump em in either...feed a little at a time. I bet by 2 weeks they will be eating pellets. This method has worked great for me.