Need to put my fish out of his misery.
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phreakph;1857468; said:
well that way you know your hitting the spine right away...
i only had to euthanise my fish once.. and i just threw it in a bag, put the bag in the freezer, and shut the freezer so i didnt have to watch it..
Hawkfish3.0;1857428; said:
Maybe, if the water was not cold enough, but think of your body mass in water that is 30 degrees or less. You would be numb in seconds and dead in not many more. Now imagine a small fish in that, literally instant. Before the fish felt or realized anything it would be dead. Its systems would shutdown right away. I only suggest this if Clove Oil is not immediately available and they are looking for a second means.
Hawk: Totally agree on the throwing it against something idea. I see this in principle working, but what if the fish slips wrong out of your hand, or does not hit the surface as hard as you intended. You may seriously injure it before killing it, then it has to go through this process twice. If you where going to go with something like that, use a hammer or a bat or something. A tool will be much more accurate, a much smaller impact zone thus a much large ft/lb impact in a concentrated area. But still there is the possibility that you miss slightly and hit it just off the mark and not kill it immediately.
I don't see anyway that this would be more humane that an extremely cold ice bath. If for some reason the water didn't kill it instantly, it would certainly immediately make it numb. Think of how numb your hands get when covered in snow. Imagine dipping your hand in 30 degree or colder water, pretty sure it would make them go numb right away.
Agreed, but also much more brutal. Some of us think of our fish as pets the same as a cat or dog. Would you smash your sick dog in the head to put it out of it's misery?
Hawkfish3.0;1857483; said:
Not a chance, thats why I would not recommend this approach. Also why I dont recommend the straight freezer idea, too slow to drop the temp enough. Drop the temp of a large enough mass of water and its mass will be much larger than that of the fish, thus the drop in temp of the fish will be drastically increased. It is all about changing the temp of a certain mass as fast as you can. The more mass already at a real low temp will bring whatever it surrounds down to its temp incredibly fast.
Think of something we can all relate to, if you take a room temp beer and put it in the fridge how long does it take to cool down. If you put it in the freezer it is a little faster, but still slow. If you take a cooler that has been filled with ice all day and has a collection of water at the bottom and you throw that same beer in there it will be cold in no time.
Not to make light of a lousy situation ph, just trying to explain my point. Let me know how the ice water works for you...
Hawkfish3.0;1857483; said:
I don't think you can really make that comparison since we can fortunately take our dogs and cats to the vet to be put down. Would you throw your sick dog in a frozen lake to kill it?
Killing a fish is killing a fish. Whether it seems brutal or not, the most important thing is giving it a quick death.
True, when your hands get cold, they get numb. But when they get very, very cold, and your tissue starts to get damaged, the feeling goes from numb to very painful.
Well discussion over, took like 15 seconds ice water took care of it. The way it looked he was out of his misery as soon as he hit that water. And yes my fish are my pets and I am not smashing it with a hammer or throwing it off the concrete. This was sad enough as it is! But you guys did make me feel better with all of your off the wall HUMANE ways to kill a fish.
If it will fit drop it head first in a blender.
Sounds brutal but the brain is destroyed immediately.
Sounds brutal but the brain is destroyed immediately.
