Sorry i have failed to mention i have had this fish for nearly 8 weeks which is long enough to see the nitrates stablise. I am new to keeping oscars but i did my reaserch. you say you had trouble to keep two oscars in a 55 gallon which i can understand. im 7.5 gallons short of 55 us gallons (if thats what your going by since your american) I scanned the internet and asked alot of people that are NOT selling me anything and found the rule says 55 min for one oscar but people do keep healthy oscars in smaller tanks. Half says you can and half say you cant. and people that say you can have. people who say you cant have most of the time never tried and are just going by t rule, which is why i asked. Im not stupid and i can figure out what seems possible or not. I have overstocked in the past not knowing any different so i know what to look out for.
New and eager to learn.
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would you be happy living in a closet? pretty much the same thing. good health possible sure if dedicated. but happiness? no. sure, do what you want, but your O would be happier in a bigger tank.
I am very dedicated. You could say no fish is 100% happy about being in a fish tank. I dont think my oscar is worried about another 6 inches to swim. you could say a fish that can swim large distances in its natural life shouldnt be put into an aquarium no matter how big. a bird that can fly should not be caged. its the same thing. so your point is?
muffywrx;5037676; said:
+1
If you've kept fish for years then why are you trying to push the envelope and shove a fish into a tank that is smaller than what 50% of the population of seasoned O keepers consider the BARE minimum? I don't see a seasoned 5+ year fish keeper doing something like this... Go search Oscar fish on youtube. You'll get a good look at the other half of your genius 50% that say go for it. They are the same morons that keep Arowana in 125 gallon tanks, 3 O in 90 gallon tanks, pfft I even saw some ass on there with a full grown King Kong Blood Parrot in a fricken' like 5 gallon tank.
OscarFishRule;5037709; said:
Plus, as mentioned before 30% weekly wc is certainly not dedicated. That might work for your previously kept every day aquarium fish that stock 10 or 20 gallon tanks but that's practically nothing when it comes to O. Now throw in the over stock factor? I'm sorry but it's simply not possible to keep 40 gallons of water below 10ppm nitrates biologically with weekly 30% wc and one adult O unless you are some sort of witch doctor bro. Maybe it's possible now at 8" (which I seriously doubt) but it won't be once your O is full grown.
OscarFishRule;5037709; said:
Her point is A standard 55 gal tank is about 4 feet long and one foot wide. You're not even working with that. Your working with an even smaller tank that's probably around 3'. Since an average Oscar grows to about 12 ( and can grow up to 18") inches, a 55 gal barely provides room to turn, and provides a straight line swimming distance of about 4 body lengths( in your case if you are lucky enough for him to stop growing at 12" 3 body lengths), which is not much.
This is all making me chuckle a little now. Its back and forth and i can be half as bothered as you are with it jon. Like i have said If i cant keep my fish healthy ofcourse i will rehome him. But 50% of the infomation i have tells me it is possible to do such a thing as keep a healthy happy oscar. I wont see this O suffer so you dont need worry. and like i have said before thankyou for your advice. Like someone has told me i should have just lied and said i was rehoming him to a larger tank soon. lol im bored with this now. Thanks again for your concerns.
Okay and in certain areas 50% of the population is obese due to improper nutrition education. Does that make it healthy?
There are a ton of stats you could apply this to, but there is always a right half and a wrong half. Just because the wrong half kept their oscars in a small, polluted environment and stunted them so that they didn't grow very big and were able to maintain a smaller tank does not mean that it is okay to do. Temporary, sure. But I'd like to see proof of this so called "10ppm nitrate" on just a 30% water change weekly using a liquid testing kit. In fact, a before water change and after water change results. Because there is no way you are using an accurate kit and receiving those results. Poor O.
Funny how you say you are bored with this yet you keep coming back and back ... just sayin!
PS. I really don't care about your opinions, or what you do, but I do care about fish. And their well-being. And I'm sorry if you take offense to the MFK way of spoiling our fish so that they are fully happy and love life.
There are a ton of stats you could apply this to, but there is always a right half and a wrong half. Just because the wrong half kept their oscars in a small, polluted environment and stunted them so that they didn't grow very big and were able to maintain a smaller tank does not mean that it is okay to do. Temporary, sure. But I'd like to see proof of this so called "10ppm nitrate" on just a 30% water change weekly using a liquid testing kit. In fact, a before water change and after water change results. Because there is no way you are using an accurate kit and receiving those results. Poor O.
Funny how you say you are bored with this yet you keep coming back and back ... just sayin!
PS. I really don't care about your opinions, or what you do, but I do care about fish. And their well-being. And I'm sorry if you take offense to the MFK way of spoiling our fish so that they are fully happy and love life.
OscarFishRule;5037766; said:
I'm officially done with this thread. Unsubscribed. The comments expressed by the OP in their last message clearly shows they aren't genuinely looking for advice to best tend for their O rather just an argument. It's quite obvious this O will be yet another poor victim of poor housing conditions ie: overstocked, minimal not nearly large enough or frequent enough wc schedule, and polluted water perimeters from a poor owner not caring for their O properly even after hearing the facts.
muffywrx, he doesn't have >10ppm nitrates with an 8" O in a 40 gallon tank doing 30% weekly wc.
You and I both know that's extremely unlikely. OP just came here to hear acceptance for putting an O in a 40 gallon tank and performing 30% weekly wc and is frustrated that they were told other wise. As opposed to excepting any advice they've just argued every piece of advice given from the very first page of this thread.You're obviously fishing for acceptance with how your keeping your O with your thread so I suggest asking some fish keepers on youtube. You'll definitely get some thumbs up for putting an O in a 40 gallon tank w/ 30% weekly wc from most of that population. Sad how not logical some people are.
OP do you happen to have live plants in your tank and what test kit are you using.
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Jon M;5037957; said:muffywrx, he doesn't have >10ppm nitrates with an 8" O in a 40 gallon tank doing 30% weekly wc.
Yep, my point exactly.
