New fish died in 2 hours
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Did you check bags PH vs your tanks PH? Could have killed them with PB shock.
Did you test your tank water after deaths?
Maybe some kind of contamination in tank or filter.
Did you test your tank water after deaths?
Maybe some kind of contamination in tank or filter.
"facepalm" Brand new tank, unknown if it was cycled. That is a gamble for sure, what did you expect ? Could have at least tossed a comet gold fish in to try it out first.
Could hav slowly introduce with a slow drip system and a bucket before dumping it in?
Could hav slowly introduce with a slow drip system and a bucket before dumping it in?
He used seeded media from his sump, and at the size those fish were theres NO WAY there was enough ammonia in that tank to kill them that fast. My guess is either PH being way different, or contamination. Sorry for your loss.
This is where I'm leaning since the fish were from 3 different vendors, I wondering if some knucklehead got gas or something before the meet and was touching the bags.
I don't know what you mean by "gas" and if this was the case I imagine there'd be many complaints being made at the vendors from others that got fish at the meet. Have you called the vendors to see if your issue was unique or not?
As far as your issue I have to say I've had water bad at the tap and I'm leaning toward that as the cause. There's many reasons water can be bad from the tap and I've had fish gasping or stressed after a water change just to find the new clean water parameters where horrible. Line work and other construction as well as just time and a whole slew of other reasons can release previously undetected contaminants into the water. It's not a common occurrence but it does happen. I'm sure there's been times you've drank water and thought hmmm, tastes kind of metallic today or doesn't taste right. I know I have and I live in NYC who supposedly has some of the best drinking water in the country. Since having issues after water changes I now test the tank water before the change, trying to keep track of the consistency in it's degradation in quality; looking for possible issues and the tap water itself before I do the change.
This is one of the reasons why I never float bags, especially from unknown sources such as at an auction. While I would also suspect toxicity from something, your acclimation routine put all of your fish at risk of ammonia toxicity as well, especially fish from an auction that were most likely in those bags for several hrs before you got them home & floated those bags, and then added new water over a period of time. In the following sticky Miles explains what the result of that can be, and why.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?5350-Acclimating-LARGE-Fish
I've never floated a bag in my life, and have always used the drop & plop method described in that link, including with numerous wild fish, and fish flown in from overseas. Never once lost a fish, or experienced any stress beyond what one would typically expect from a new fish being acclimated to a new environment. The only parameter one truly needs to be concerned with are TDS values, everything else is generally a non issue.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?5350-Acclimating-LARGE-Fish
I've never floated a bag in my life, and have always used the drop & plop method described in that link, including with numerous wild fish, and fish flown in from overseas. Never once lost a fish, or experienced any stress beyond what one would typically expect from a new fish being acclimated to a new environment. The only parameter one truly needs to be concerned with are TDS values, everything else is generally a non issue.
Gas, hand lotion, soap residue, and/or? etc transfered from someones hands to the surface of a bag could potentially create toxic conditions in a tank. Add to that fish who were already most likely suffering from exposure to a strong dose of ammonia (see link above) and voila, the perfect storm was just created.
Seems more plausible to me than the OP's water suppy suddenly going sideways, but of course that too is also a possibility.
Seems more plausible to me than the OP's water suppy suddenly going sideways, but of course that too is also a possibility.
