to be honest this short bodied thing really isn't thrilling me, just looks like real problems in the long run, the spine must be all twisted and malformed, i personally wouldn't buy those, buying them just premotes people purposely breeding fish in shortbodied version for sale, with endli's it doesn't look bad at all, but african cichlids are meant to be elongated fish, rather that a crumpled, car crash fish. just my 2 cents, sorry for the off topic post...