new new tank idea

[blatch]

hi everyone after a previous thread i have decided to try native marines, in my juwel rio 400.
the tank stocklist im still not 100% sure on but i would like to try and breed the common blenny(shanny), my reason for this is that they have become pretty hard ot find at my local beach and would like to try and increase the numbers again, i also want to breed them for the fun of breeding.
at the moment this is my current hopeful stocklist:
5 blennys(chance of getting upto 2 pairs),
5 common gobies,
pipefish(maybe worm),
lots of perriwincles(try to breed these)
1-2 dogwhelks,
some muscles,
some anemones,
like 50 shrimp,
and maybe a wrasse of some type.

i think that i will have a big pile of ocean rock(from my malawi tank) and then rocks from the beach on top.

this is only a bsaic guess at the stocklist.
also please could i have some info on how filtration and stuff should be

thanks matt

 

[blatch]

anyone?

 

[SpJc11]

sounds good

 

[bromie88]

hey its not my thread is it? im hopefully gettin a rio 400 soon too.

choose your livestock wisely. if you want anemones be careful with blennys. tompot blennys will eat anemones so make sure you dont have both in your tank.

the easiest anemones to keep are the beadlet anemones. they require no light. but obviously need feeding every few days. they stay small around a 2" disk. there are others too. snakelock anemones require lighting though. also plumnose (dead mand fingers), but not sure what they require...

and for wrasse... your in torquay there should be pleanty of cuckoo and ballen wrasse around there. go to a pier or harbour wall with a spinning rod and some small ledgers and hooks and use ragworm for bait. you will get one soon enough.

ive been thinkin of a lesser spotted dogfish. but it may be cramped in the rio 400.

 

[blatch]

yer at one time i did think of trying a dogfish but the tank would be a bit small for it, the blenny im hoping to keep is the common blenny also known as shanny, im also going to get some small grey mullet in the tank aswel, i no they get big but i will only keep them short term maybe a year at most then get some more small ones.

the anemones im thinking of getting are both beadlets and snakelocks, but ive also heard of aiptasia being ound in the waters near me so if i find one i will use that one aswel.
what fish are you hopng to have in your tank?

 

[bromie88]

more of the same. i want a dogfish but not sure. releasing captive fish is usually a bad idea, as it can spread disease. so i'd want fish i could keep for life. so smaller wrasse, gobies, blennys that dont eat anemones, maybe small flatfish. usual inverts prawns, shrimp ect. maybe starfish and urchins if i can find them.

some beadlet anemones, not sure on the other species. would have to worry about lighting then aswell. and hopefully some sea lettuce, and bladderwrack* seaweed for some greenery. so same as last time really. if its the 10gal its smaller stuff. if i do it in the rio 400 it will be bigger species.

i will have to persuade my GF to let me keep my 3ft set up as a reef though... which is gonna be tough as im running out of room, and money.

 

[bromie88]

hey blatch, just been doing some research on the Lesser Spotted Dogfish (Scyliorhinus canicula), it turns out they also go as far as the med. so a chiller may wont be needed

its starting to become extremely tempting...

ballen wrasse (Labrus bergylta) are found from norway to the azores

im havin trouple loading web pages for cuckoo wrasse (Labrus mixtus). i can only assume that it has the same range as the ballen wrasse. untill i get fishbase to load...

 

[blatch]

i found aquarticles is pretty good, i would prefer to have lots of fish rather than only a couple of big ones. i think ballan wrasse are probs the best option.
for anemones you wont need powerful lighting oly 1-2 t5 bulbs, i was talking to sumone on pfk and he said that he only has the 2 t5s and he has had great succes with snakelocks and beadlets.

what do you think you will keep with the dogfish?

 

[Ullopincrate]

This sounds like an interesting project. I'll keep checking back.

 

[bromie88]

This sounds like an interesting project. I'll keep checking back.

nooo, theres preassure to complete it now! cant we have ideas we dont have to see through on MFK?

dunno what would go with the dogfish. they arent exactly active hunters, more scavangers. i suppose anything thats quick and too big to be eaten could be considered a tankmate. if its well fed it may help too.

i wouldnt get too attatched to whatever else is in the tank. i think inverts like prawns would be a no go. unless you have enough to have a breeding population in the tank, as i dont think it would bother with small prawns. but then again...

im also thinkin of tryin a plywood tank now though... im not sure if it would be cheaper for me to make a tank as aposed to buying a glass one. it would still be the same size 5x2x2, or maybe 2.5 wide, but im not sure if pond liner would be ok in a SW environment. and i dont want to do the whole fiberglass/epoxy route.

or buy a glass tank, and make the stand and hood myself. with help of course i could use what filters i have on it, and use the new 3ft i had to buy as a sump. it could work...