Well as long as oscars stay safe unless they think that since so common and so many there going to ban them if you know what i mean casue lots means could damage waters D: hope they don't come to that conclusion.
new noxious CA cichlids in oz, starting 7th november
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yeah they suck!! they can ban all these species but theres that many in the country they'll always be available!
Guys,
Contact your local cichlid society. They should be able to supply you with a form letter and the contact details for the appropriate goverment member to contact to lodge your protest. Posting on a forum will not be heard, contact the goverment directly and your local federal house of reps member in particular...follow them up before the deadline...
Here's a link to the Perth Cichlid society thread. http://www.perthcichlid.com.au/forum/index.php?showtopic=20326
We need to be one of those annoying minority groups who pushes their agenda...
Contact your local cichlid society. They should be able to supply you with a form letter and the contact details for the appropriate goverment member to contact to lodge your protest. Posting on a forum will not be heard, contact the goverment directly and your local federal house of reps member in particular...follow them up before the deadline...
Here's a link to the Perth Cichlid society thread. http://www.perthcichlid.com.au/forum/index.php?showtopic=20326
We need to be one of those annoying minority groups who pushes their agenda...
To shed some light on things I thought I would share this info posted by NSWCS Representative on Australian Cichlid Enthusiasts Forum posted Yesterday, 08:55 PM 
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Hello all,
In response to many emails and PMs here is the state of the nation - as far as 'grey' lists go - as of tonight.
There was indeed a meeting on October 16th with representatives from the Rural Sciences, Commercial trade and Hobbyist arenas (these were definately outnumbered).
During this meeting the fish on the grey list were assessed against a marking scale and the majority tipped over the benchmark of 10 points into 'noxious' territory. I am led to believe however that the cut and dried process did not take into account the large number of these as having the potential to only exist in a small radius and for the most part would probably die out over a few years not living up to the true meaning of 'noxious' to the environment.
It is the National Ornamental Fish Implementation Group's responsibility to assess and review the findings of the technical working group.
On November 7 this National Group is required to make their recommendations to the Ministerial Council and as we are aware the outcome will have ramifications for all of us.
I have been informed however, that due to the amazing response from you dear Hobbyists and your emails and letters, a Senior Agricultural Manager has commented that there was no communication strategy in place to capture the hobbyist view point and that there should be recognition of the value and knowledge of the trade at this level.
There has been a recommendation made that stakeholders workshops be held to rectify this and that the grey list remain in play until this has occurred and the outcome more evenly awarded.
What does this mean - it means that for now we appear to have gained a small stay and will be offered the opportunity of a voice.
Under no circumstances should all fish on the grey list have their status changed and there will always be fish that do not currently appear on any list that should be assessed. There are proposals for the grey list to remain as is for this reason, and that all that appear there be carefully quarantined and maintained within the parameters set.
If for some reason the decision reached does result in a negative outcome this will be at National level and that each State and Territory may have recourse at local level.
Let this be our wake up call - if we are serious hobbyists let us effect appropriate change with clear direction - and not allow apathy to overtake us and catch us sleeping again. End Quote
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Hello all,
In response to many emails and PMs here is the state of the nation - as far as 'grey' lists go - as of tonight.
There was indeed a meeting on October 16th with representatives from the Rural Sciences, Commercial trade and Hobbyist arenas (these were definately outnumbered).
During this meeting the fish on the grey list were assessed against a marking scale and the majority tipped over the benchmark of 10 points into 'noxious' territory. I am led to believe however that the cut and dried process did not take into account the large number of these as having the potential to only exist in a small radius and for the most part would probably die out over a few years not living up to the true meaning of 'noxious' to the environment.
It is the National Ornamental Fish Implementation Group's responsibility to assess and review the findings of the technical working group.
On November 7 this National Group is required to make their recommendations to the Ministerial Council and as we are aware the outcome will have ramifications for all of us.
I have been informed however, that due to the amazing response from you dear Hobbyists and your emails and letters, a Senior Agricultural Manager has commented that there was no communication strategy in place to capture the hobbyist view point and that there should be recognition of the value and knowledge of the trade at this level.
There has been a recommendation made that stakeholders workshops be held to rectify this and that the grey list remain in play until this has occurred and the outcome more evenly awarded.
What does this mean - it means that for now we appear to have gained a small stay and will be offered the opportunity of a voice.
Under no circumstances should all fish on the grey list have their status changed and there will always be fish that do not currently appear on any list that should be assessed. There are proposals for the grey list to remain as is for this reason, and that all that appear there be carefully quarantined and maintained within the parameters set.
If for some reason the decision reached does result in a negative outcome this will be at National level and that each State and Territory may have recourse at local level.
Let this be our wake up call - if we are serious hobbyists let us effect appropriate change with clear direction - and not allow apathy to overtake us and catch us sleeping again.
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I hate LAWMAKERS.
That really sucks for you guys.
There are tons of other IMPORTANT things that need attention, not the slow elimination of the fish hobby.
Hope everything goes for the better!!!
That really sucks for you guys.There are tons of other IMPORTANT things that need attention, not the slow elimination of the fish hobby.
Hope everything goes for the better!!!
i haven't got around to buying the jag at the nursery/aquarium yet, and probably won't this week. a close relative of mine (who happened to be quite the fishkeeper too) passed away on saturday.
oh and greenterra, thats good news.
apparently there are populations of jack dempsey and convicts in dams in northern nsw, as well as platies in the newcastle drainage system. why aren't these fish on the grey list, rather than more expensive, but less hardy fish? i dont want these fish on the list, but i think the person/people who compiled the list seem not to have knowledge of established populations of exotic aquarium fish in australia, but rather put fish that are known to be agressive, large or predatory? (basically what this whole forum is about)
oh and greenterra, thats good news.
apparently there are populations of jack dempsey and convicts in dams in northern nsw, as well as platies in the newcastle drainage system. why aren't these fish on the grey list, rather than more expensive, but less hardy fish? i dont want these fish on the list, but i think the person/people who compiled the list seem not to have knowledge of established populations of exotic aquarium fish in australia, but rather put fish that are known to be agressive, large or predatory? (basically what this whole forum is about)
