new pbass ID please.

[Steve_89]

I totally agree with you steve. but its not a pure occel. its eyes are not red, not that that matters hybrid from OS, sure maybe. pure occel NOPE. Like ive said for the past few years, im expecting to see more p bass soon but there has been absolutely no occells shown to me in australia. Every single time ive seen one for sale ive contacted the seller for pics. Every time ive been dissapointed to find out its another mono. All the fish for sale seem to be about the same size so im guessing someone has off loaded a bunch of monos as occells to unsuspecting people and this is whats being passed on. I also see those spangles down the tail an thought hey maybe we have a genuine occel but i doubt it. As you would know occells and monos are very similar almost identical when young, this is no coinsidence that people are saying we have them in oz. You dont hear of kelberi being here or azuls do you? thats because they cant be passed off as something they are not when young. Monos and occells can be.

Yep. I am pretty sure we are both on the same page

 

[FunWow!]

Any chance of a nice side of the body shot?

 

[silverdragon]

it doesnt have red eyes. it has the same colour eyes as my monos like a slight copper colour. plus we DONT HAVE OCCELLARIS in australia.

Are you sure about that?

There was a time when you could confidently say that...there were plenty of PURE monoculus being bred LOCALLY and they were BEAUTIFUL...I don't see it as much anymore unfortunately...

Now times have changed and honestly who knows what has been imported...they all come in as juvies so nobody really knows what they are getting unless the sources are 100% reliable...these fish are bred in mass numbers overseas...they could be hybrids for all we know.

I do not know the history of the fish in question but there is every chance it could be some kind of mixture of mono/ocell if it was imported and not bred locally.

I do see traits of ocell in that fish.

I totally agree with you steve. but its not a pure occel. its eyes are not red, not that that matters hybrid from OS, sure maybe. pure occel NOPE. Like ive said for the past few years, im expecting to see more p bass soon but there has been absolutely no occells shown to me in australia. Every single time ive seen one for sale ive contacted the seller for pics. Every time ive been dissapointed to find out its another mono. All the fish for sale seem to be about the same size so im guessing someone has off loaded a bunch of monos as occells to unsuspecting people and this is whats being passed on. I also see those spangles down the tail an thought hey maybe we have a genuine occel but i doubt it. As you would know occells and monos are very similar almost identical when young, this is no coinsidence that people are saying we have them in oz. You dont hear of kelberi being here or azuls do you? thats because they cant be passed off as something they are not when young. Monos and occells can be.

the fish posted by the OP could very well e Ocell, dosent look full mono for sure..
WHat i can say is that theres definately alot of hybrid cichla floating around our shores lately..

 

[jcardona1]

I totally agree with you steve. but its not a pure occel. its eyes are not red, not that that matters hybrid from OS, sure maybe. pure occel NOPE. Like ive said for the past few years, im expecting to see more p bass soon but there has been absolutely no occells shown to me in australia. Every single time ive seen one for sale ive contacted the seller for pics. Every time ive been dissapointed to find out its another mono. All the fish for sale seem to be about the same size so im guessing someone has off loaded a bunch of monos as occells to unsuspecting people and this is whats being passed on. I also see those spangles down the tail an thought hey maybe we have a genuine occel but i doubt it. As you would know occells and monos are very similar almost identical when young, this is no coinsidence that people are saying we have them in oz. You dont hear of kelberi being here or azuls do you? thats because they cant be passed off as something they are not when young. Monos and occells can be.

i sure would like to know how you can say for sure that his fish is not pure ocell. i dont see any mono characteristics in that fish. and no red eyes??? are we looking at the same pics? the fish clearly has red eyes in the last two pictures. and he looks fairly young too, so im sure it will intensify with age

 

[en71ce]

uhm - yeh appreciate all your feedback re ID - but is there any way to confirm the exact breed of cichla my pbass is? or is the markings to complicated/vague to see? i can provide more pix if required..

 

[Rebel Souljah]

i sure would like to know how you can say for sure that his fish is not pure ocell. i dont see any mono characteristics in that fish. and no red eyes??? are we looking at the same pics? the fish clearly has red eyes in the last two pictures. and he looks fairly young too, so im sure it will intensify with age

 

[mjuniorc]

i sure would like to know how you can say for sure that his fish is not pure ocell. i dont see any mono characteristics in that fish. and no red eyes??? are we looking at the same pics? the fish clearly has red eyes in the last two pictures. and he looks fairly young too, so im sure it will intensify with age

very good arguements on i'ding this particular specie...
but DONT FORGET, ALL CiCHLA, get RED EYES, DURING STRESS or AGGRESSION, FEEDING, etc.. = P

 

[Rebel Souljah]

very good arguements on i'ding this particular specie...
but DONT FORGET, ALL CiCHLA, get RED EYES, DURING STRESS or AGGRESSION, FEEDING, etc.. = P

true...but looks like a ocell to me....what about you Mike?

maybe some kelberi possibilities, I know that mine gets red eyes when feeding!

 

[mjuniorc]

true...but looks like a ocell to me....what about you Mike?

maybe some kelberi possibilities, I know that mine gets red eyes when feeding!

IDK you tell me....