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Im not sure, could it be food, lighting, water, stress, wood?
I have very hard water so it could be contributing factor.
Im using cellphone camera, could ve lighting too or all of the above.

My water is very tannis too

Anyways, mrtoofay, maybe snap a few more pics to show us now that they are settled In?

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So according to your analysis my teles Pires could be jamaxin? I doubt those dots on the fins are indicator.
I'm not sure but that's what I have heard(red). The information about identifying these "species" is very slim.
 
Im not sure, could it be food, lighting, water, stress, wood?
I have very hard water so it could be contributing factor.
Im using cellphone camera, could ve lighting too or all of the above.

My water is very tannis too

Anyways, mrtoofay, maybe snap a few more pics to show us now that they are settled In?

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My theory...... It's a little of everything. White tank treatment is suppose to keep it bright, while black tank treatment will make it lose it's stripes. When we first get them, they are very bright and pretty.... BECAUSE THEY ARE STRESSED!

I'd say that it's the same with white tank treatment. These are nocturnal fish, if you put them in a environment where it's white and bright everywhere, they will be stressed all the time.

All my goldlines' colors turns a lil dull after settling in, all but one, that remains a true gold color all the time. When my friend came, he asked about the coloring as well. At first, he was skeptical about the stress part, bu when I was fishing out his fish, he saw the fish's colors brighten up right before their eyes.

It's true with most plecos. Royals, especially most types of L27s (the almost white platinum Xingu L27 you see, that's stress, especially after shipping or handling), L25s (the lighter based colors and the spots really shows up when they are stressed), and others of course. The fish you see with bright colors are usually vendor pictures where they really are not that comfortable, LFS's stressfull enviroment, or guys with clear glass all the way around. Of course, white tank treatment as well.

I thought about adding a white paper insert to the bottom of my tank to bring up their colors, but decided against it.
 
just took some quick pics to show how much of them settles in.

stressed:
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Comfortable
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Stressed
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comfortable, YUP! it's the same fish even eyes changed!
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And the biggest difference of them all......... don't think I need to mention which is the stressed one....
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Don't worry, if I fish them out and dangle them abouts for a min or two, they'll be right back to their bright self. People always post the brightest and prettiest pictures online, and that's what most think they should look like. I don't really mind if they are a lot duller most of the time. To me, that's just them being comfortable and that I am doing my job!
 
Thats great observations, I totally agree, after water change they tend to be more colorful after moving all the woods around.

Do u run wavemaker on ur tank? On that last pic, the l25 behind teles pires looks awesome! Is it super red? The l25 and 600s seems to have the best color in my tank

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My L027 Tapajos did that too, but since it has grown and it's one of the biggest fish in grow out tank it has gain more color. So hierarchy has something to do with coloration. My young Jamanxims have almost maintain all of their "stressed" coloration, and they are not very shy. I think bare bottom makes some plecos turn more black cause glass surface is actually dark. For example usually L014 turns very nice looking dark fish on bare bottom, but on sand it turns almost all yellow and looks a bit stressed and isn't comfortable on open light surface. Overall fine river sand (white/yellow) and black rocks with driftwood works best and forces them to keep nice looking vivid colors because the high contrast in their environment. But as mrtoofay said it's a little bit of everything.
 
Picture of them together, the teles pires is in the shade, but it's still showing brighter color, eventho it's been with me for much much much longer.

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