new red tex

[Chrisplosion]

I can find out for sure,but the red tex I've seen @psmart do not fade.this is fading so could be flo-ho,tex mix.we'll see,but if it is flo-ho,then why not sell it as that?how come the rts at psmart don't fade?if the guy got flo-hos from segrest,why would he call them red tex?....

From what I have seen your fish isn't fading. They don't fade because they don't have the genetics for it. Segrest sells them to stores as Red Texas, stores don't know any better and label them as such.

..... why don't you call it a Seagrest Kamfa,if that is who allegedly produced it?

They are more commonly seen at Petsmart than local stores so its makes sense. I don't care what you call them, call them what you want. I have been calling them that because its simpler to identify the strain.

Every store does not get their fish from seagrest farms, im really getting tired of hearing this load of crap. Petco and maybe petsmart yes i know petco fish came from there when i worked there. There are many fish stores in the dmv area that dont order anything from seagrest. And they to have all kinds of low grade red texas. Know at least one that orders straight from thailand and they still get low grade red texas. Best thing to do is see if the store owner wil tell you. I can get the same size and quality red dragons that all these sites sell for 100-150 for 30-60 bucks. The world is a big place. With all that said it could or could not be from seagrest check with your source if they will tell you.

Yes every Petsmart is supplied through Petsmart. Don't recall me or anyone in this thread saying anything about Petco because I know not every Petco goes through them. I would agree to check but I have seen enough of these to make the call. Whiles its believable that say DC doesn't go through them, I highly doubt a local store in Florida doesn't go through Segrest being in Florida. If its a more knowledgeable store that knows their stuff I could see them going through other sources.

 

[Spartacus]

It's definitely faded,you can only see the tail spot,and barely the head spot.
But remember Cris,there are hundreds of fish suppliers in florida.you can't blame the seller either,if seagrest is frauding people,by saying 'yeah we have red tex' when they really have a lot of kamfa or other flo-hos or some hybrid tex flo-ho they're experimenting with cuz they dont know how to make a srt.The guy at the store probably only ordered it because people asked him for these fish.He's probably never seen them.most people dont know how to make them or have even heard of them.

 

[Spartacus]

do the pk's fade?

 

[Chrisplosion]

It's definitely faded,you can only see the tail spot,and barely the head spot.
But remember Cris,there are hundreds of fish suppliers in florida.you can't blame the seller either,if seagrest is frauding people,by saying 'yeah we have red tex' when they really have a lot of kamfa or other flo-hos or some hybrid tex flo-ho they're experimenting with cuz they dont know how to make a srt.The guy at the store probably only ordered it because people asked him for these fish.He's probably never seen them.most people dont know how to make them or have even heard of them.

That fish is not faded, it just doesn't have a strong flowerline and the pearling is covering it. When faders fade they lose all of their flowers, even the tail. I know there is more than Segrest but Segrest is the biggest and most popular. I have only seen this strain of flowerhorn come from them.

I never blamed Segrest or insinuated that it was a bad thing that they are selling them falsely. Some of them are coming out better then the fish they are selling as actual Flowerhorn, basically getting a better fish at a much lower price.

I do not believe that PK have the fading genetics in them, I have not seen or heard of any of them fading.

 

[Spartacus]

isn't the tail spot the last to go on faders?
Why wouldn't you blame seagrest,if this is an ongoing problem,traceable to them?
I'm not sure about the r.t. I got from psmart either.It's not fading,but it is a red tex,not a super rt.is this normal?Is there really a difference between a rt & srt,or is it marketing or what?

 

[Spartacus]

I mean if they're breeding a tex w/ a flowerhorn and calling it red tx-it's fraud>

 

[Jerkinthetank]

Or you could go in when there shipment comes in and look at the freshwater boxes =P that's how I found out that's almost all the fish stores here get there fish from seagrest farms


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[Spartacus]

that's the slick way to do it!look for a copy of the manifest!

This is the rt I got at psmart a couple months back

 

[Chrisplosion]

isn't the tail spot the last to go on faders?
Why wouldn't you blame seagrest,if this is an ongoing problem,traceable to them?
I'm not sure about the r.t. I got from psmart either.It's not fading,but it is a red tex,not a super rt.is this normal?Is there really a difference between a rt & srt,or is it marketing or what?

No but regardless your fish isn't a fader. I don't know if they are breeding the fish themselves or are getting them from a breeder. I suspect they are receiving large quantities of these from a breeder possibly from overseas but I have no way to prove it since Segrest won't comment on it. If they are receiving the the fish as Red Texas, they are gonna sell them as such. Super anything is a marketing ploy but typically is used to describe much redder fish.

I mean if they're breeding a tex w/ a flowerhorn and calling it red tx-it's fraud>

Don't know if they are breeding them though.

that's the slick way to do it!look for a copy of the manifest!

This is the rt I got at psmart a couple months back

Looks Red Texas but would need more pics to say for sure.

 

[Spartacus]

It really does look like a green tex,except w/red but maybe pearls a little different?I'm suspicious now.I like these fish,but don't like being sold one thing,and actually getting another or being misled.