new tank : fish dying

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Put some aquarium salt in there, it helps the fish recover from the shock of moving. Plus dont add alot of fish at one time. Maybe 2 or 3 at a time. That way if anything comes up you dont loose alot of money at once. I've had alot of problems with community fish dying right off the bat. My gf lost an entire tank to ick cause of petco. I would also put fish in that are great for the start of a tank, such as cherry barbs. That way they can get the helpful bacteria up in the tank.
 
It could be residue from the tank..

or bacteria whatever it maybe.... I would suggest using HOT HOT water to steralize any new tank... to kill off anything in a tank...

When tanks get old and unsued.. bacteria will grow and probably on the side of tanks...

To really tell u.. i really dont know whats causing it.. but i would recommend using hot water to wash the tank down..

Hope it helps..
 
I agree with FishMan1318 and zerojquan85 and also what fish were the tank cycled with? hopefully bards or danios
 
uncwnells;2643611; said:
the pH has nothing to do with the ammonia thats killing the fish :screwy: Are you even adding water conditioner?
Actually the pH can be involved. The higher the pH, the more toxic the ammonia is.

Lundypmp;2643620; said:
amonia was tested! they were mainly tropical fish such as guaramis BUT... also 1 peacock and a pleco
So what is your ammonia? Here are my points based on your first post.

1. How did he wash the filter? What exactly did he use to wash the filter? Are the filter media in it new or established? The use of hot water or detergents can destroy the beneficial bacteria responsible for keeping the ammonia, nitrites and nitrates at a safe minimum in order for the fish to thrive. Always use dechlorinated tap water or tankwater when cleaning the filter media.

2. What exactly are the water parameters? Post your ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and pH. Post 3 does not justify the tank has cycled especially how it was done. Did you add anything to start the ammonia source? Beneficial bacteria colonize the substrate and filter media, not the water column so old tank water is useless.

3. Per your first post, your boss should get an API liquid test kit for himself rather than rely on his LFS to lie at him "the water is fine" and other empty words.


Fishman1318;2643700; said:
Put some aquarium salt in there, it helps the fish recover from the shock of moving. Plus dont add alot of fish at one time. Maybe 2 or 3 at a time. That way if anything comes up you dont loose alot of money at once. I've had alot of problems with community fish dying right off the bat. My gf lost an entire tank to ick cause of petco. I would also put fish in that are great for the start of a tank, such as cherry barbs. That way they can get the helpful bacteria up in the tank.

mfk4life;2643770; said:
I agree with FishMan1318 and zerojquan85 and also what fish were the tank cycled with? hopefully bards or danios
I for one do not believe in using fish for cycling. Why? The fish is being subjected to the toxic effects of both the ammonia and nitrites as far as high pH is concerned in the former's case. There are other safer options than cycling with a fish. Read this.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84598

Fishman, I wouldn't blame the chain store for what had happened assuming you never quarantined the new stocks to protect the current stocks from pathogens by new arrivals which often are disease carriers.
 
Your fish died because your tank is not cycled. You should only put 1 or 2 fish in at a time when you have a new setup. If you put a whole group of fish in at the same time it causes your tank to have too much waste hence the dead fish.
 
Lupin;2643787; said:
Fishman, I wouldn't blame the chain store for what had happened assuming you never quarantined the new stocks to protect the current stocks from pathogens by new arrivals which often are disease carriers.

Well then I guess you should never assume lol Petco did say that their system was infected when we brought the dead fish back. And it was thankfully just a few fish, neon tetras. Not expensive fish like pbass. She was wicked mad that her siamese fighting fish died. Either way...the main reason I dont do community fish anymore is cause they die so easily. S. American Chiclids seem to work out sooo much better for me.
 
spaulding;2644039; said:
what did he use to "wash" the tank? there could be cleaning residue left in the tank or filter.


I agree with this. As soon as I began to read this thread the one thing that jumped out at me was he cleaned the tank and filter. If he used anything other than a little bit of vinegar and hot water then your fish may just be being poisoned by a commercial cleaning agent. I would look into what he used to clean before I sent anymore fish to the guillotine. Good luck and don't give up yet.
 
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