New Texas - Help Identify Please

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AllAlaskan said:
Texas usually dont have worming on the face like that do they? I thought Texas had only spots where Carpintis (or Carpintis cross) had the worming on the face. Is this correct or not?
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That is true, Texas (Herichthys cyanoguttatum) usually don't have wormings on their face. In fact, they don't have wormings, ever. Green Texas (Herichthys carpintis) can have wormings - i.e. with varieties like Escondido, but it is not an absolute necessity. The Rio Salto varieties don't usually have (clear) wormings, not like that on an Escondido. Neither do the Lahillas. :)
 
Aw ok, cool. Learn something new every day :D So is it just Vontehillo that have the worming usually?
 
AllAlaskan said:
Aw ok, cool. Learn something new every day :D So is it just Vontehillo that have the worming usually?
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Aye, I used to know nothing about these guys as well. XD But then I got my first Green Texas and did heaps and heaps and heaps and heaps of research to compile all the info together. :3 Lot's of contradictory info, I tell ya, but after looking at many different websites and forum posts and stuff, managed to weed out all the dumb stuff.

Vontehillo and Escondido. :D Lemme dig up some info. :P
 
Explanations on different Texans, Green Texans and their hybrids:

Azedenkae said:
There are 'four' Texas. Though only one of them is actually a Texas.

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'Texas' refers to Herichthys cyanoguttatum. Here's one:

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The pearlings on a Texas is small, round-ish and has a more regular distribution of pearlings, and less variation in pearling shapes. They also tend to just have this color or a lighter color.

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'Green Texas' refers to Herichthys carpintis. Here's one:

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The pearlings on a Green Texas is large(r), more varied in shapes and is much more irregular in terms of distribution. They also tend to have much better colors than a Texas. Usually blue or green, and the nice thing is they vary between blue and green readily, based on whatever the fish seems to prefer.

Super Green Texas are Green Texas that has a much richer blue or green (or both) than a non-Super Green Texas. The above for example, is a Super Green Texas. Then again, what 'Super' is varies between person to person. But most would agree that a specimen such as above is 'Super'. Most commonly, Super Green Texans are collected from Escondido or Vontehillo, and these varieties tend to be interchangeable with the name 'Super Green Texas' itself.

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'Blue Texas' is a name that pops up from time to time. The designation refers to both Texas and Green Texas. Best not to use it, ever. Just letting you know, in case you come upon it. If you ever see a fish labeled as 'Blue Texas' being sold, make sure to find out what it is referring to exactly - Texas or Green Texas (or in some uncommon cases, other Herichthys species or hybrids).

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'Red Texas' is a hybrid of Texas/Green Texas/A Hybrid of the Two and some other fish, or is a descendant thereof; which has a red coloration (comparable to a Green Texas), has pearlings and has the look of a Texas/Green Texas. Here's one:

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As one can see, it has a Texas/Green Texas look to it (ish), has a very red body and pearlings. This one in particular is labeled as a Super Red Texas. A Super Red Texas is more or less just a Red Texas with a coloration comparable to a Super Green Texas.
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Different Green Texas varieties:

Azedenkae said:
H. carpintis var. Lahilla tends to have smaller pearlings (compared to other Carps, but still larger than a Cyano) and they're more curved, forming crescents sort of. Their pearlings also tend to be more spaced. They also tend to not develop wormings on the face.

H. carpintis var. Chairel does not tend to develop wormings either, however their pearlings are larger than that of a Lahilla, often forming odder shapes towards the front. The pearlings just below their eyes tend to look like disjointed wormings.

H. carpintis var. Escondido tends to have wormings on their face. They tend to have large, irregular pearlings on their face. They can also have wider spacing between their pearlings. These tend to be referred to as 'Super Green Texas'.

H. carpintis var. Vontehillo is similar to the Escondido, though is said to have more 'chunky' pearlings and wormings. Looks bigger and more joined together.

H. carpintis var. Rio Salto tend to have wormings like Escondido and Vontehillo, though much smaller pearlings than both of those varieties (still bigger than a Cyano tho).

Those're pretty much the more common/well known strains. I have heard of other collection localities such as El Salto, but bleargh.
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Aw cool, thanks for that info :D So it seems Vontehillo and Escondido are pretty darn close to looking like each other huh. Again, Thanks for sharing that :D helped explain a lot for me.
 
AllAlaskan said:
Aw cool, thanks for that info :D So it seems Vontehillo and Escondido are pretty darn close to looking like each other huh. Again, Thanks for sharing that :D helped explain a lot for me.
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Yeah, many people say that they're probably the same variety - despite being collected from different localities. Sorta like two different regions of the same well, larger region, basically.

Anyways, yw. :) I love Green Texans so so so so much. They're basically the best cichlid species ever, imo.
 
I am really liking mine, he seems to get better color by the week. Definitely was worth getting for sure.
 
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