New to breeding Convicts!

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Thanks. What do you mean by dragon? Like a miniature dragon figurine?
Yeah, just a bubbler I bought from petsmart. Its probably about 14 or 15" long & a few inches around at the widest part. The convicts easily get in and out through the mouth. Here's a pic of the head, so just imagine a dragon proportionate to that;)

I EXPECTED them to make use of the fake cave right there, or even the little tower in the background...looks like its the dragon they like though:grinno:

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FishTankMan;4579647; said:
My convicts will also flare there gills and lock jaws. During the breeding ritual. I just got them so no babies yet.
mine did that too and now i have babies but the female don't like the male...... :grinno:
 
Cheesetian;4573912; said:
1. Is my 2x1x1 tank big enough to house a breeding pair?

It's on the small side, and once they spawn will overcrowd very quickly.

2. I have an Eheim 1000, is that an adequate enough filter?

Best info I could find was ~80-100gph flow. If you can rig a sponge filter out of it, it might handle it.

3. What kind of subtrate should i be using? And what about plants and rocks?

Barebottom, or very little gravel (At one point I only covered half the bottom with about half an inch of gravel to anchor plants. My convicts weren't worried by bare glass at all. Consider taping black construction paper/poster to the back and/or sides of the tank to cut down on movement outside the tank scaring them. The female will need a place or two she can hide from the bigger male. Consider getting some small clay pots (or other items to create shelters) and a mix of plastic plants / floating live plants you can tie down if you don't have gravel. Anacharis went over well for me. They don't seem to bother it when floating, and it grows well for me in a low light setup.

4. How do i identify convicts? I went to the store and all the cichlids look the same to me apart from their colors.

Many cichlids look similar when they're growing out. Any reputable shop can set you straight, or hit up google images.

5. How many should i buy at one time to get a good mating pair?

If you start with a single male/female pair, you may lose one to aggression. Starting with 4-5 and returning/trading/giving away the spares once they pair may help spread the chasing.

6. What kind of food do convicts eat?

Mine were picky until they spawned and the fry started eating. They'll currently eat anything that hits the water. Flake, pellet, stick, veggies, insects, etc. Before that, they tore up the Tetra tropical crisps and granules.

7. At what size and age do they reach sexual maturity and what is the maximum size a convict can grow to?
I have had females spawn successfully and others show mature color at ~1". You're more likely to see success at 2+ Remember to look for the tank's dominant male. You may be able to buy a pair at the store - they're that anxious to get started. The dominant fish will be darker colored with less damage to their fins, usually holding a corner/area to theirselves.

As to max size, you'll likely see them top out in the ~6" range for males. Smaller for females.

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8. How can i tell if the female is going to spawn? Are there any mating rituals?

Intially when pairing (as well as when they're becoming sexually mature) she'll darken up considerably and her belly will show a good bit of orange-red metallic.

Females will flare (Like the pictures below) their fins, puff out their gill plates, jitter and swim all around the male running against him. When she starts getting reclusive and digs a pit or you see her gaurding a cave / swimming upside down in it / etc, you're getting there.

In my second picture, you can see the females breeding tube. She's only waiting on the male at this point. If your female drops tube, eggs and aggression are inbound.

9. Are there any ways to tell the male and female apart?

Coloring and size. Females will show orange-red metallic flake on their stomach.

Here's a few quick shots - 8mp camera phone, but they're not fond of sitting still. Best I can do short notice without leeching google images.

- One of my lightest colored females. She's a bit pissed, I took her fry this morning. ~2.75" or so.

- Pair over Tahitian Moon sand. She's yet to lay, eating very well, and still nowhere near as dark as last time.

- Same female. Just to give you an idea of the different irridescent colors they'll show in their fins when happy. You'll see golds, reds, blues, and greens. Approximately ~2.25"

- A handful of the female's fry loving their new algea farm. (They're growing out a bit there with black neons, corys, and ottos) The green is horribly washed out by an abundance of lighting.

Easy fish to raise, ton of aggressive personality. My fry started attacking my arm at about .5" to demand food.

I actually go "convict fishing" instead of netting. I can hold an earthworm in one hand, lower it in, and lift a 1-4" convict clean out of the water to try and grab before it shakes and tears it's prize free. :ROFL:

You may have trouble triggering a pair to form / start spawning. Dither fish / a few smaller convicts to beat up on tend to do the trick.

Hope it helps. ^_^

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When do you start feeding the fry? Mine are free swimming now but I wasn't quite ready for them and don't much in the way of food they can eat.

Can I crush up some hikari cichlid pellets or feed the crumbs in the bottom of my krill bottle?

Also, is it normal for the female to beat up on the male after the fry are hatched? She won't let him anywhere near them:ROFL:
 
Moloch;4589959; said:
When do you start feeding the fry? Mine are free swimming now but I wasn't quite ready for them and don't much in the way of food they can eat.

Can I crush up some hikari cichlid pellets or feed the crumbs in the bottom of my krill bottle?

Also, is it normal for the female to beat up on the male after the fry are hatched? She won't let him anywhere near them:ROFL:
some times mine did that and i had to take out the male...
 
Moloch;4589959; said:
When do you start feeding the fry? Mine are free swimming now but I wasn't quite ready for them and don't much in the way of food they can eat.

Can I crush up some hikari cichlid pellets or feed the crumbs in the bottom of my krill bottle?

The fry are pretty good about letting you know when it's time. After a few days, they'll start pecking at the substrate, and a few will begin to chase tiny particles in the water.

Pellets will likely be fine. Crush one, mix it with a little bit of tank water, and pour it through a tube right on top of the fry, followed by some more tank water to push out a cloud of food right into them.

You may not have to do anything overly specific. Watch your parents. They may crush the pellets and spit them out into the fry. If they do, frequent very small feedings will work well. Presoaking the pellets in tank water and smashing them so they'll sink right to the fry works well.

If you've got java moss / other plants or algea for the fry to swim in, they'll find a lot of food on their own. I have 1/2" and smaller that are feeding with 2" corys at the moment. They'll swim right into the group and tear off tiny chunks of sunken pellets.

Best of luck. ^_^
 
Yeah I just started crushing my hikari pellets and sinking them through a tube. Didn't think to mix with tank water...I just cut the corner off a plastic bag and crush it in there then pour it into the tube.

The mother has been 'preparing' food for them, its been pretty cool to notice (haven't witnessed it yet). I didn't think they'd crush the food for them...I think so far she just picks up the powder I leave for them and moves it to wherever she wants them to be.

The biggest worry for me right now is the female being WAY over-dominant. She forces the male to stay in the top-back corner of the tank. I'm not sure if he's even getting food to be honest:irked: I can't move him to my other tank, I have two ready-to-breed females in that tank, its overstocked as it is & I can't afford to risk getting 1 or even 2 hostile pairs of convicts out of it:\ Hopefully he makes it through.

And no I don't have any plants in there. I think they've started to eat the brown algae that has shown up in the past week or so on my decor, but I can't tell if they're eating it or its just going away on its own.
 
Cheesetian;4573912; said:
So i've been reading this section a lot and i've noticed that many people breed convicts. From enough reading i now know that they are some sort of cichlids. But there are a few things i would like to know before i go ahead with trying to breed them.

1. Is my 2x1x1 tank big enough to house a breeding pair?
Should be fine.
2. I have an Eheim 1000, is that an adequate enough filter?
Also, should be fine, but a little extra wouldn't hurt.
3. What kind of subtrate should i be using? And what about plants and rocks?
Some larger, flat rocks, would be great. Sand or gravel is OK for substrate, plants will probably get eaten.
4. How do i identify convicts? I went to the store and all the cichlids look the same to me apart from their colors.
Umm, try to familiarize yourself with them from Google Images or something. They're pretty easy to find, they breed fast.
5. How many should i buy at one time to get a good mating pair?
Hmm, maybe around 4. 6 would be optimal, but that would be too much for the tank. You have tor remove the others when the pair forms.
6. What kind of food do convicts eat?
Frozen live foods, live foods, flake food, cichlid pellets, etc.
7. At what size and age do they reach sexual maturity and what is the maximum size a convict can grow to?
Max size on a big male, probably around 6ish inches. But in the 2x1 tank, they probably won't be more than 4-5 inches. I'd guess they could spawn at 4ish inches.
8. How can i tell if the female is going to spawn? Are there any mating rituals?
They act different. It varies from convict to convict, but they will act significantly different.
9. Are there any ways to tell the male and female apart?
Females bellies get some orangey.
10. Sorry for the question, i'm a noob. Any extra input would be wonderful.

Thanks and much appreciated! ><(((^> :nilly:
Convicts breed fast. The only thing, in that small of a tank, you may want to try to artificially raise the fry. In smaller tanks, the babies usually get eaten by the male. If you could get like a 4ft tank, they would raise the fry pretty well, but idk about a 2ft. I wish you luck :D
 
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