New to Salt!!!

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In your 40 gal, how many lbs of live rock did you add into it? That right there is very important. The easiest way of doing a salt water tank is with fish only with live rock. The live rock is for filtration. You want to make sure that you have around 1 lb of rock per gallon of water. So in your case, min of 35 lbs of live rock. You don't need to add "live sand" it will cultivate on it's own. If you want to set up your tank faster, DON'T add any pieces of dead fish or shrimp into the aquarium. The live rock will have plenty of dying material on it already. If it doesn't, your live rock is up and ready for you to add fish. I used to set up my salt tanks and add fish the next day or two after everything settled down. I don't reccomend doing this because you're brand new to salt.
If you do the live rock only method, you DON'T NEED any other filtration except a skimmer would be a good idea. CPR backpack is a decent little skimmer that would do very nicely on your tank. You don't need a wet dry, or bio wheel filter. the live rock will do just fine. And if you do the live rock only method, TAKE OUT your bioballs, bio material and such. All it does is produce nitrate. Live rock has plenty of aerobic and anerobic bacteria to take care of the nitrogen cycle.
Doing this method however, you'll need a lot of water movement. In fact, you can sustain your tank with just powerheads and live rock and a heater. So with that said, get several powerheads and point them across the tank toward the opposite corners, this will give you some pretty decent water flow. Try to move your tank's volume 4 or more times an hour through the pumps.
As far as fish go, groupers would get too big for your tank pretty quickly. If you start with some baby triggers (you may not want more than one in the tank due to fighting) they will do just fine for quite a while. They are very active fish however. Make sure they eat for you before you buy them. They should eat like fat little piggies. Good starter triggers would be Niger or Huma or Rectangular triggers. Also, they are somewhat aggressive fish and they should be the last thing you add in the tank. Other less aggressive fish like tangs or clowns should be added first.
And as far as adding anemone's or mushrooms to your tank, don't do it. You're brand new to salt, and it's a bit of an undertaking, not to mention expensive. Same thing with all the additives. You don't need them unless you do a reef tank. If you have any more questions please ask. I've been keeping reef tanks for 7 years now.

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To answer one of your questions, the internal filter will most likely not last in saltwater setup. You probably know that salt is pretty corrosive. you will most likely see some "salt creep" fairly soon. There will be salt all over the outer surfaces of your tank.
 
Make sure that your rock is fully cured before you add the live sand, so you don't have to try and clean any detritus out of your sand.

And don't forget a heater.
 
thanx ogre that was pretty damn good info and i will follow those guidelines to a T. i have 12lbs right now im picking up more tomorrow. jimk couldnt i just clean it up?
 
There are a few books out on the market that provide a lot of really good information for getting into reef tanks and LRFO (live rock fish only) tanks. Here are a couple to check out on amazon.

The New Marine Aquarium: Step-By-Step Setup & Stocking Guide

Simplified reef keeping: The first easy-to-understand guide to building, maintaining and enjoying a successful reef tank (Unknown Binding)
by Robert M Metelsky

Make sure you keep reading. My way is not the only way to do it. It just works for me.
 
why somany power headsin 40 gal? isnt that a bit much. and what gph should i use? my internal filter is pushing out 185 gph.
 
flow is good. very good. 185 is good for starters, but your live rock is doing the filtering and you want to expose your water to the rock as much as possible. And in nature, water in most reef areas moves quite a bit. shoot for cycling your tank a minimum of 5 times an hour. When I had my surge on my 50 it would cycle ever 8 minutes and it was a 4 gallon surge, however, it whipped through my tank like a hurricaine. And I had a powerhead and a tiny hang on the back filter as well as water coming from the sump.
 
well,i have decided to add a few damsels to help cycle my tank. i pt 4 blue devils and 2 dominos. they have survived the first day and already ate. (dont know if that means anything ) and 3 more lbs of live rock
 
Damsels can be about the hardest thing to kill. How much live rock do you have in the aquarium so far? I hope you don't put too much live rock with the fish in the tank. Some of the rock can be nasty and polute your water. Does any of the rock you put in smell funny? Make sure you smell it before you start throwing rock in the tank. If it doesn't smell like salt water, it's not ready for the tank. Also catching those little bugger can be difficult. Don't add too much rock before you take the fish out because you'll have to take appart your entire rock setup.
 
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