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n2extreme1

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My buddy just recently purchased four 4in motoro rays. He had them in a 400 gallon setup with plenty of filtration. Moved out all the other fish into other tanks so the rays can adjust. Lost 1 the first night, the 2nd one the third night and all for within the wk. All refused to eat. He tried all kinds of food including bloodworms, white fish, frozen shrimp, ghost shrimp, krill and night crawlers. None of the rays seemed intresed and refused to eat. Im at a loss on what to tell him.
 
First of all P.motoros are illegal in Florida. Second, doesn't matter how big the tank or how well the fitration is. If the rays are stressed or have parasites they can die in a few days. Since they are young motoros, I would say they were captive breed. If that is the case, then I would probably rule out parasites and say that they were too stress to live. Have to find out if your buddy acclimated them correctly, then find out what the water parameters were. You will more than likely never find out what killed the rays. Good luck to you and your buddy in the future.
 
Sounds like an ammonia spike to me. For them to die off that fast, there had to be some upset condition. Motoros just don't die, they are very hardy if all precations are taken. Were these rays captive breed or wild? If they were wild, black worms and ghost shrimp are about the only things they will touch and from there you can move to other foods slowly.
 
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jwong1024;3281485; said:
First of all P.motoros are illegal in Florida. Second, doesn't matter how big the tank or how well the fitration is. If the rays are stressed or have parasites they can die in a few days. Since they are young motoros, I would say they were captive breed. If that is the case, then I would probably rule out parasites and say that they were too stress to live. Have to find out if your buddy acclimated them correctly, then find out what the water parameters were. You will more than likely never find out what killed the rays. Good luck to you and your buddy in the future.

First of all thanks for the "CALL OUT"!
Why do people care whether or not someone has something illegal????:confused:
"First of all Motoros are illegal in FLA." :screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy:
"Your" not going to jail for it, let them enjoy it. If they get caught, they suffer the consqences, not you?

Who gives a sh--t!

Shouldnt be illegal in Fla, anyway. What are they going to do, upset the Oscars, Mayan Ciclids, Clown Knifes, Snakeheads, Jags, Peacock Bass, Midas Ciclids, Swamp Eels and Walking Catfish from their "natural breeding". :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
I have caught every one of these species either in a net or on a hook and line!

Just answer his question, and feel good for helping a fellow MFK.;)

Most often rays are lost to poor water quality, or an infestation of parasites.
Hope that helps, enjoy your "Florida FW Rays", I wont tell!
 
jwong1024;3281485; said:
First of all P.motoros are illegal in Florida. Second, doesn't matter how big the tank or how well the fitration is. If the rays are stressed or have parasites they can die in a few days. Since they are young motoros, I would say they were captive breed. If that is the case, then I would probably rule out parasites and say that they were too stress to live. Have to find out if your buddy acclimated them correctly, then find out what the water parameters were. You will more than likely never find out what killed the rays. Good luck to you and your buddy in the future.

very small motoros do come out of the wild.... just because they are small doent mean they were captive bred...


and just cause he is in florida doesnt mean his friend is either;)


FishDog;3281491; said:
Sounds like an ammonia spike to me. For them to die off that fast, there had to be some upset condition. Motoros just don't die, they are very hardy if all precations are taken. Were these rays captive breed or wild? If they were wild, black worms and ghost shrimp are about the only things they will touch and from there you can move to other foods slowly.

agree on the ammonia spike... prob shocked the system... if not ammonia then who knows xhit happens and fish die...
 
julnj2;3281904; said:
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First of all thanks for the "CALL OUT"!
Why do people care whether or not someone has something illegal????:confused:
"First of all Motoros are illegal in FLA." :screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy:
"Your" not going to jail for it, let them enjoy it. If they get caught, they suffer the consqences, not you?

Who gives a sh--t!

Shouldnt be illegal in Fla, anyway. What are they going to do, upset the Oscars, Mayan Ciclids, Clown Knifes, Snakeheads, Jags, Peacock Bass, Midas Ciclids, Swamp Eels and Walking Catfish from their "natural breeding". :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
I have caught every one of these species either in a net or on a hook and line!

Just answer his question, and feel good for helping a fellow MFK.;)

Most often rays are lost to poor water quality, or an infestation of parasites.
Hope that helps, enjoy your "Florida FW Rays", I wont tell!

First rule, don't advertise your location under your profile.
 
I never stated where my friend lived so to say he lives in Fl is jumping to conclusions. For those of you who offered possible reasons for the deaths thank you for your advice. Even if it was amonia that doesnt explain them not eating.
 
n2extreme1;3282256; said:
I never stated where my friend lived so to say he lives in Fl is jumping to conclusions. For those of you who offered possible reasons for the deaths thank you for your advice. Even if it was amonia that doesnt explain them not eating.

yes it does
 
n2extreme1;3282256; said:
I never stated where my friend lived so to say he lives in Fl is jumping to conclusions. For those of you who offered possible reasons for the deaths thank you for your advice. Even if it was amonia that doesnt explain them not eating.



well actually it does... sometimes new rays in a tank take a few weeks to get eating anyway but if ammonia was stressing them even more there is no way they would eat...
 
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