NEW w/ POLL canister vs. wet/dry

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo

what's your current set-up?

  • 50-179 gal wet/dry

    Votes: 25 20.3%
  • 50-179 gal canister

    Votes: 51 41.5%
  • 50-179 gal other

    Votes: 18 14.6%
  • 180-299 gal wet/dry

    Votes: 15 12.2%
  • 180-299 gal canister

    Votes: 16 13.0%
  • 180-299 gal other

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • 300-600 gal wet/dry

    Votes: 12 9.8%
  • 300-600 gal canister

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • 300-600 gal other

    Votes: 5 4.1%

  • Total voters
    123
I think it depends on the tank size an how stocked the tank is. I use both I have a DIY wet/dry on my 75, an a canister on my 120 for added Bio (besides the 2 ac110s) .
 
Howdy,

Thanks for all the great input already.:thumbsup: Let me address a few of the aspects you mentioned in order to present the canister man's view ;)

  • I have yet to experience a water leak with my Eheims (25 years, knock on wood), as compared to sump overflows (I think rallysman's was the latest report). I have to admit that the FX5 also caused a water leak in Oddball's system and other people's tanks. But then, these are teething problems of a new design and I have yet to hear about a similar experience with Eheims.


  • I cant let this one go without a B.S flag waving - I see more complaints about Eheim than I care to read about - good news about them they have 25 years worth. As for the leak, if it involves water, there is always a risk of a leak - Is a wet dry any more less prone? NOPE especially when you start cutting tanks for fittings. Since the FX5 gets singled out here again, no big deal from what I have read about any leaks its boils down to incorrect setup (i.e make sure your fittings or fasteners (thumb screws are tight). Only in the land of the purple sky is Eheim king - simple rule of thumb directed for the Eheim loyalists "if it aint got the flow, its got to go" Good thing Rena released their XP4 to take away from Eheim - I wonder if there will be any negative campaigns towards the XP since its not green either?
 
Great thread.

I'm not sure about how the cannister filters are buildt, but can't you add a air stone inside a cannister filter for more oxygen if that seems to be more efffective?
 
The outtake of my eheim 2028 cracked and i had a mini flood...................goes to show that even the "top of the line" canisters scr#w up sometimes.............luckily bigals.com took care of me and sent a brand new connection for free..............it was a hairline crack that took me a while to find..................I thought that it wasa loose tube fitting.........


Just to reiterate my point and to counter the B.S that gets promoted - on this site you can find all the info you need about Eheim and they too leak...its not just an FX5 problem is the point

Read Oddballs journey as well....funny I tightened the metal clamp to where I cant even pull it off the intake/outtake port.....no f&*%#@ way is it coming off by itself....I would do that with any filter. Im sorry to hear it happened to him, but pipes burst in homes, plumbing, and water mains all the time in life. Anybody got a pool? ever have to dig up around the pool and fix a leak? You deal with water, thats what happens....end of rant
 
Great thread.

I'm not sure about how the cannister filters are buildt, but can't you add a air stone inside a cannister filter for more oxygen if that seems to be more efffective?

No but you can adjust the exhaust outputs to agitate the water
 
Read Oddballs journey as well....funny I tightened the metal clamp to where I cant even pull it off the intake/outtake port.....no f&*%#@ way is it coming off by itself....I would do that with any filter.

Don't know what metal clamp you're talking about. There are none on the FX5. The edge mounting brackets utilize 3 plastic sawtooth snap-on hose bands that grab 1/32" of another sawtooth edge. That's what popped off. But, with the wide zip-ties in place, that will no longer be a problem. Might be a good deal if Fluval included 6 of these 3 cent bands with their new top-of-the-line canister filter.
 
I have a w/d and went with 2 XP3 on my 220g. Why?

What I don't like about w/d
1. you have to have your tank filled to the top.
2. any floating food sticks gets sucked right in the over flow.
3. floating plants get sucked up to the box and slow the flow.
4. evaporation.
5. hard to clean. How aften do you clean your w/d?
I clean my XP3's every month, very simple.
6. restart

I like canisters because I keep lots of plants in all my tanks.
I can run my tank half full, if i want. With the spraybars making
it seem like rain on the water surface.

It's all personal preference.:)
 
I cant let this one go without a B.S flag waving - I see more complaints about Eheim than I care to read about - good news about them they have 25 years worth. As for the leak, if it involves water, there is always a risk of a leak - Is a wet dry any more less prone? NOPE especially when you start cutting tanks for fittings. Since the FX5 gets singled out here again, no big deal from what I have read about any leaks its boils down to incorrect setup (i.e make sure your fittings or fasteners (thumb screws are tight). Only in the land of the purple sky is Eheim king - simple rule of thumb directed for the Eheim loyalists "if it aint got the flow, its got to go" Good thing Rena released their XP4 to take away from Eheim - I wonder if there will be any negative campaigns towards the XP since its not green either?


It's a lock you work for Fluval.


I use both canister and Wet Dry's in combo on all my tanks. With the same idea that RTF has. My wet dry is basically for bio filtration and my canisters for mechanical.

Hey Harley how come when making your comparisons you keep saying the newer more efficient media that you put in canisters should match up well with bio balls(a more numerous amount) used in a wet dry. I know I don't have to tell you but you can put anything you want in your wet dry. If you can fit 3 litres of eheim substrat in a certain canister filter for example. I can probably fit 30 litres of it in my wet dry. I am just making up mock numbers but you get the idea. THe media handling capabilities of a wet dry far exceed that of a canister. But there is always the question of when does media start going to waste? If I were to put 30 litres of eheim substrat in my wet dry how much would go to waste? Even if bacteria colonized on all 30 litres of it, the same tank with 5 litres may hold the exact amount of bacter just at a much higher concentration per litre of media.

Sorry for this jumple of statements. I already know composition of sentences is not my strong suite.
 
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