New wild axanthic??? Silver arowana from wes rare fish

[ultimatejay]

I'm not 100% sure that it doesn't occur in the wild either, it may. We rarely see adults in the wild is the problem.

That may be true but this is already happening to juveniles in captivity and I bet you will not see this happening to them in the wild.

Also fish are looking through the tank glass/acrylic onto objects outside that aren't in water that may have an effect. I wonder if drop eye happens to fish that are kept in ponds or tubs that have no clear sides?


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[davenmandy]

never thought of that. are black arowanas not as prone to it or we just don't see too many adult black arowanas? I know asian arowanas get it., come to think Jardinis have less of it right...?

I personally have NEVER seen a black arowana with drop eye. Have you? There are actually a fair more adults then I would have guessed back when I was raising mine, just have to dig em up, threads here or google. It was my understanding that they don't it at all, anyone else wanna chime in?

 

[vincentwugwg]

I personally have NEVER seen a black arowana with drop eye. Have you? There are actually a fair more adults then I would have guessed back when I was raising mine, just have to dig em up, threads here or google. It was my understanding that they don't it at all, anyone else wanna chime in?

Adult black aros get drop eye too.. but yes, it happens much less often. I saw many black aros with drop eye at the now closed EZ aquarium in New York a few years ago. No pun intended

 

[davenmandy]

There could be something to the theory about fatty diet and clear water thing when considering how few blacks get drop eye if we can consider the thickness of silvers vs black. From what I know (very limited mind you) silvers get a lot thicker, both in width and "height", so maybe the fact that they have a bigger skull shape could contribute? Again just thinking out loud, don't have much to contribute but want to keep the discussion going.

 

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[T1KARMANN]

why are you always hating? lol.

why always make assumptions, like nan light etc...?

why do you always have to be right., wild caught shouldn't have drop eye. Did you know even now, about 98% of all silver arowanas are wild caught? and how many big silver arowanas do you know have perfect eyes on both sides? Pretty rare right?

So rude with your comments, and normally I wouldn't jump in, but again you're infringing on my credibility as an importer,

To right I'm rude I haven't posted on MFK for over 2 months I come back to still see you trying to convince people what a great buy you got
I think it's yourself you need to convince no anyone else or fong

The difference between me and other people is I just say what many others are thinking

What would cause drop eye in the wild it wouldn't be jumping and smashing a head on a cover glass

It wouldn't be genetics unless the silver gene pool in the wild is very small that doesn't leave many options left for drop eye does it

Fish being wild caught has been a lie in many many cases in the past what makes you think it was any different in the 80s or now

I'm a hater so you say it seams this is a witch hunt for fong with all of your mates and lovers of a over priced silver to be wrong

But like I said that lovely panda eye that was such a big selling point at the start of this thread has now turned into a not so sellable drop eye

The price you paid for this aro hasn't gone up as it's grown if anything it's crashed now it's developed drop eye
I for one wouldn't purchase and aro with drop eye as its classed as a major defect not a major selling point

I will leave you again now to continue having a pop at fong just because he also doesn't agree with this silvers value


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[fugupuff]

Hey Mister from England,

I've never had any confrontations with you in the past. This thread was not started by me, but a friend and customer of mine. Never have I solicited for your negative opinion or comments. Didn't your mother ever teach you if you have nothing nice to say, keep your mouth shut?

You jumped to conclusion that a "nan" light was used, when it wasn't, so you can stand corrected on that? Apologize?

You assume these fish are captive bred, when I can prove to you that its wild, you are wrong again, care to apologize?

Yes, often fish are foiled as wilds when they're captive bred, but if you know fish at all, which I know you've been around and have some experience. Silver arowanas are not bred with any regularity until about 6 years ago, when the attempt was to reproduce albinos.

Yearly there are over 500,000 silver arowanas exported from Peru that is documented, shipped to Hong Kong to be raised, and many to be re-sold to other countries, including the one you live in. How do I know this? I am involved in this business, I've been to Iquitos, seen it with my own eyes. I know the people who make a living by making $0.25 per fish on these fish.

So until you have something of value to you say, I suggest you keep your rude comments to your own damn self.

To right I'm rude I haven't posted on MFK for over 2 months I come back to still see you trying to convince people what a great buy you got
I think it's yourself you need to convince no anyone else or fong

The difference between me and other people is I just say what many others are thinking

What would cause drop eye in the wild it wouldn't be jumping and smashing a head on a cover glass

It wouldn't be genetics unless the silver gene pool in the wild is very small that doesn't leave many options left for drop eye does it

Fish being wild caught has been a lie in many many cases in the past what makes you think it was any different in the 80s or now

I'm a hater so you say it seams this is a witch hunt for fong with all of your mates and lovers of a over priced silver to be wrong

But like I said that lovely panda eye that was such a big selling point at the start of this thread has now turned into a not so sellable drop eye

The price you paid for this aro hasn't gone up as it's grown if anything it's crashed now it's developed drop eye
I for one wouldn't purchase and aro with drop eye as its classed as a major defect not a major selling point

I will leave you again now to continue having a pop at fong just because he also doesn't agree with this silvers value


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[T1KARMANN]

As far as the captive breed vs Wild Caught...........I was with Wes when he picked them up at the airport from the airline coming from Peru.........so you can drop that.....I actually would prefer that it was captive breed as I think they are healthier fish.....as far as the light thing goes.......I could argue it better if I knew what a "red nan light" was.......all I know is that I have a white led beamsworks on my tank.........and if there was a special red light shining on him wouldnt his scales and the opaque tub he is in have a red tinge to it from the light? And you cannot see it from the photo but the lid to his bin is black so no light shines in on him from the top....and both eyes still have dark circle around pupil not as dark as before but yes very different from regular aro....sorry

So you think they don't breed aro in the county they are wild caught in

I must remember that when I get a super red sent over from Indonesia it's must be wild caught if it landed on a flight from Indonesia

Hahahaha your funny

It's even better for them to breed in the country they come from they just shut off a section of the river making a large pond water change time just open a small lock job done

They still have limited gene pool maybe 20-30 it just make selling them to market less risky as no need to go out fishing

Come on wake up


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[T1KARMANN]

Hey Mister from England,

I've never had any confrontations with you in the past. This thread was not started by me, but a friend and customer of mine. Never have I solicited for your negative opinion or comments. Didn't your mother ever teach you if you have nothing nice to say, keep your mouth shut?

You jumped to conclusion that a "nan" light was used, when it wasn't, so you can stand corrected on that? Apologize?

You assume these fish are captive bred, when I can prove to you that its wild, you are wrong again, care to apologize?

Yes, often fish are foiled as wilds when they're captive bred, but if you know fish at all, which I know you've been around and have some experience. Silver arowanas are not bred with any regularity until about 6 years ago, when the attempt was to reproduce albinos.

Yearly there are over 500,000 silver arowanas exported from Peru that is documented, shipped to Hong Kong to be raised, and many to be re-sold to other countries, including the one you live in. How do I know this? I am involved in this business, I've been to Iquitos, seen it with my own eyes. I know the people who make a living by making $0.25 per fish on these fish.

So until you have something of value to you say, I suggest you keep your rude comments to your own damn self.

It's called a open forum

If you only want good comments don't post in a open forum

Of course you will defend this thread to the max your the one who made money out of it your hardly going to refund him money when the panda eye faded are you


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