New wild caught Tiger shovelnose

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anzo1993

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Hello, I just purchased a 4inch wild caught tiger shovelnose catfish from a reputable source , currently have him in a 180 growout with a tinfoil barb, a couple clown loaches and a big silver dollar, hoping to get him eating pellets, here he is

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Your fish is made by a man in a Petri dish by crossing a female TSN with a male Leiarius marmoratus for food but since it was a genetic refuse, an underperformer (didn't grow quick enough by the farm standard) it was culled and sold into the ornamental fish trade, which sold it to you as a w/c TSN, which it is not.

More is here: https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...could-it-be-p-corruscans.564171/#post-6726748
 
I am interested to see how this fish grows up. With the others the head when bigger looks more like marmoratus than tsn but the head of this youngster to me looks tsn. In fact the only thing other than the more plain dark colour that doesn’t look standard tsn is the loo large dorsal, and even that does not look overly large.
Interested.
 
I agree with victor that it is defiantly something similar or a perruno catfish x TSN they are beautiful but definitely are man made
 
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I'll keep you guys posted on the development of the catfish, well have to wait and see I guess lol but honestly I've had several tsn catfish and I cant say any of of them have ever looked the same whether it's the shape of the fins, the pint of the nose, I feel like it all depends on the supplier
 
I'll keep you guys posted on the development of the catfish, well have to wait and see I guess lol but honestly I've had several tsn catfish and I cant say any of of them have ever looked the same whether it's the shape of the fins, the pint of the nose, I feel like it all depends on the supplier

Keeping us posted would be great and appreciated, especially if in this same thread.

I for one don't have to wait to see what this fish is. To me it is clear as day. I've seen scores of these TSNxLei or TSNxAchara hybrids and raised several. In fact I am much surprised by Dave's reaction.

Let's not drag camel-face TSNs into this discussion as these are common deformed mutants (due to farming) with a varying degree of severity of the deformation.

I am interested to see how this fish grows up. With the others the head when bigger looks more like marmoratus than tsn but the head of this youngster to me looks tsn. In fact the only thing other than the more plain dark colour that doesn’t look standard tsn is the loo large dorsal, and even that does not look overly large.
Interested.
No disrespect Dave just exchanging opinions. If you look at the snout on a normal TSN like these here https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=328 and this fish, I cannot fathom you would continue saying that the snout on this fish is consistent with a TSN. TSN's is clearly longer and flatter. Neither do I get why you singled out the dorsal when the adipose on this fish is too 2x bigger that a normal TSN would have.
 
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Victor, we are looking at a small fish. Compare the size of the adipose in photo 8 of the planet catfish link to photo 9 . You can see in some really young tsn the adipose is exceptionally larger in proportion to the fish to that of adults. Hence in young tsn I ignore adipose. But I do agree that the snout looks Maybe a little short, can’t really tell for sure by the angle of the fish and photo.
Don’t see many hybrids where I am in the uk at all, in fact never seen one for sale in the flesh , ever, and I visit at least 2 aquatic shops every week, but maybe I need to widen my circle, or the places I visit are too reputable to sell them.
Would still like to see photos of this fish progressing and still willing to give benefit of doubt on the basis we have probably catalogued maybe only 30 percent of fish that exist.
As ever, I am always happy to be corrected by someone who has kept fish I have never seen.
 
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